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There are most likely some richer people with a lot of Smart devices like Smart TVs, Fridges, Blu-Ray players, Smart Cars like the Tesla Model S electric car and most new luxury cars and many other stuff which can connect to the internet, and have its own operating system which can install third-party apps.

I bet, YouTubers like UnboxTherapy, MKBHD, and big gadget blogs like the TheVerge, Engadget, Gizmodo, etc have a whole building or basement full of Smart devices.

Some people also use credit cards to buy smart tvs, smart refrigerators, and luxury cars with a built-in PC which they can't afford without using a credit card, or borrowing money.

If you are a smartphone, or tablet collector, it is possible to fill up a room with smartphones and tablets of different brands, model names, and custom smartphones and tablets which have a gold, silver, titanium, and wood body, and custom parts like a 10 inch 4K monitor.
 
Yes, and if you ask me they are asking to be hacked.

Don't get me wrong, all that stuff is really really nice. But if someone gets in (digitally via the network) and starts playing around, you could be screwed specially if you end up without power.
 
Demon_Skeith said:
Yes, and if you ask me they are asking to be hacked.

Don't get me wrong, all that stuff is really really nice. But if someone gets in (digitally via the network) and starts playing around, you could be screwed specially if you end up without power.
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Sometimes, users may agree to have their data shared when they bought, and install a smart device like a internet connected speaker with a built-in microphone, and webcam.

I read recently at Botched Firmware Update Bricks Hundreds of Smart Door Locks that a firmware update for a Smart Internet connected door lock broke the door lock, and users were locked out of their own home if they don't have a physical key.
 
I think too much is too much. We have managed just fine with regular fridges, think smart fridges aren't needed. Sure they have some handy features, but still..
 
catactus said:
I think too much is too much. We have managed just fine with regular fridges, think smart fridges aren't needed. Sure they have some handy features, but still..
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I bet, things like fridges maybe mostly smart fridges except for a few brands and models of fridges in the future because most fridge companies may make them Smart when the price of adding smart features comes down.

Unfortunately, it is becoming harder to buy a new 40 inch or bigger TV or 4K TV from a good brand which is not a Smart TV. Most of the lesser known brands like TCL, Hisense, and RCA now mostly sell Smart TVs at stores unless you buy an older model.

I was recently looking at printers at a store, and most printers sold at the store are internet connected printer where you can use Apps, and programs to wireless print document and photos by using Wi-Fi and the internet, so you can print when you are away from home.
 
catactus said:
I think too much is too much. We have managed just fine with regular fridges, think smart fridges aren't needed. Sure they have some handy features, but still..
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This is kind of where I stand. Having a smart tv is one thing but having smart frig and self driving cars and all this other stuff......I think that is asking to get hacked. Especially the self driving car....I don't want to be in a car that someone can hack and I'd end up driving off the road and crashing.
 
WitchAssassin said:
This is kind of where I stand. Having a smart tv is one thing but having smart frig and self driving cars and all this other stuff......I think that is asking to get hacked. Especially the self driving car....I don't want to be in a car that someone can hack and I'd end up driving off the road and crashing.
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In the future non-self driving cars maybe more vulnerable to hacks because the car's computer software contain a lot of backdoors, and software security problems if the software on non-self driving cars become abandoned and outdated, where an untrustworthy mechanic can easily control a car by secretly installing a small computer chip or mini PC into a car's computer without telling the owner.

I read a news report on Jeep hackers at it again, this time taking control of steering and braking systems that non-self driving cars like a Jeep's controls can be hacked.

I think all cars with a car computer are vulnerable to hacks. Most cars made in the 1970s till now has a built-in car computer to control the engine, and other parts like the steering, brakes, and gas depending on the car's brand and model.

Adding internet access to a car, and a tiny PC to the diagnostic port or cables is not hard for a car mechanic, and criminals who secretly add something to a car's computer without the owner knowing.

Older cars made in the 1970s and newer model cars in the 1980-2017 maybe more vulnerable to car hacks because car computers and car software in cars were never designed to be very secure like computer security software like antivirus and firewall software because car hacking is not a big concern for car computer makers. Plus, it is difficult to prove to a judge that your car got hacked if your car randomly crashes into something for an unknown reason, so car computer makers may not fear getting sued if your car computer got hacked and controlled remotely by a hacker.

The safest way to protect yourself from car hacks is to drive a car made in the 1960s and older where no computer is used to control the car's parts like the engine, steering, and braking, so hackers can't hack anything by adding something to the onboard car computer unless the hacker install modifications like a newer computer controlled steering, braking, and engine control system to your car to control your older model car with a internet connected computer.
 
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froggyboy604 said:
In the future non-self driving cars maybe more vulnerable to hacks because the car's computer software contain a lot of backdoors, and software security problems if the software on non-self driving cars become abandoned and outdated, where an untrustworthy mechanic can easily control a car by secretly installing a small computer chip or mini PC into a car's computer without telling the owner.

I read a news report on Jeep hackers at it again, this time taking control of steering and braking systems that non-self driving cars like a Jeep's controls can be hacked.

I think all cars with a car computer are vulnerable to hacks. Most cars made in the 1970s till now has a built-in car computer to control the engine, and other parts like the steering, brakes, and gas depending on the car's brand and model.

Adding internet access to a car, and a tiny PC to the diagnostic port or cables is not hard for a car mechanic, and criminals who secretly add something to a car's computer without the owner knowing.

Older cars made in the 1970s and newer model cars in the 1980-2017 maybe more vulnerable to car hacks because car computers and car software in cars were never designed to be very secure like computer security software like antivirus and firewall software because car hacking is not a big concern for car computer makers. Plus, it is difficult to prove to a judge that your car got hacked if your car randomly crashes into something for an unknown reason, so car computer makers may not fear getting sued if your car computer got hacked and controlled remotely by a hacker.

The safest way to protect yourself from car hacks is to drive a car made in the 1960s and older where no computer is used to control the car's parts like the engine, steering, and braking, so hackers can't hack anything by adding something to the onboard car computer unless the hacker install modifications like a newer computer controlled steering, braking, and engine control system to your car to control your older model car with a internet connected computer.
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any computer is fine so long as it doesn't have any wireless connections.
 
Demon_Skeith said:
any computer is fine so long as it doesn't have any wireless connections.
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I think if a hacker tried hard enough, and use a strong enough wireless or electrical signal over the air, they maybe able to access a device even if there is no wireless connection by using strong electrical signals to change the data on a storage chip, and electrical circuits. Computers are controlled mostly by electrical signals which control other parts on the computer.

If the device is plugged into the wall's power, it maybe possible to hack the device when charging from a power outlet, and the charger. I read a tech blog post that some smartphones can be hacked with a hacked wall charger. It is possible to transfer data over powerline cables, so it maybe possible to hack a PC which is plugged into a power outlet.
 
I used to like the idea of having a fully automated house, where everything is "smart".
But ever since Edward Snowden showed up back in 2013, I changed my mind.

The very reason those devices are "smart" is because they know all about you.
When something knows all about you, the developers also do.
When the developers know all about you, so not only your government, but multiple governments do.
And when governments know all about you, so the tax services (and many other government-related services) do.

And to make it all worse, nearly all governments worldwide use ancient tech themselves (Windows XP or earlier, etc.), making your personal data more volunerable than ever.

And in case of having a smart home, things get even more complicated.
Either electricity gets a blackout, your internet router needs a reboot, or you forget to pay your internet bill.
Once one of those cases occur, you're done.
Everything you had in your home has become inaccessible, and nearly no way to gain access any more, unless you decide to break into your own house (and possibly alarm the police, which'll arrest you for that, making it harder to prove it's your own house).
 
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