Hope Fades for PS3

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For most of this year, Sony Corp.'s PlayStation 3 videogame console seemed finally to be taking off after a slow start. The PS3, trailing Nintendo Co.'s Wii and Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360 consoles, was closing in on the No. 2 Xbox 360, with new games and quarterly sales growth at twice the speed of last year.

But early results from this holiday season aren't promising. U.S. sales of the PS3 fell 19% last month from a year earlier, while sales doubled for the Wii console and rose 8% for the Xbox 360, according to research firm NPD. Analysts say they expect PS3 sales for this month to be flat or lower than last year, while sales for its rivals are likely to rise. And Sony may not reach its goal of selling 10 million PS3 consoles in the fiscal year through March, analysts say.

The sales decline is a heavy blow to Sony, which was banking on the videogame division to provide a bright spot as its core electronics business is hit by the global economic downturn. Sony in May forecast that its games division would turn a profit this fiscal year after two years of losses since launching the PS3 in 2006. Meanwhile, poor sales of television sets and digital cameras are forcing the company to lay off thousands of staff and close factories.

Sony's strategy of selling a pricey game machine with advanced features and cutting-edge components appears to be backfiring as a deepening recession has U.S. consumers more price sensitive than ever.

If Sony doesn't close the gap with its rivals, it could risk making the PS3 an afterthought to game publishers, who focus most of their resources on the machines with the most users. At the end of September, the Wii had a wide lead with nearly 35 million units sold since its launch in 2006 compared with about 22 million Xbox 360 consoles and 17 million PS3 machines. Nintendo last month sold 2 million Wii machines in the U.S., while Microsoft sold 836,000 Xbox 360s and Sony sold 378,000 PS3s, according to NPD.

Sony said earlier this month that it was happy with the "strong momentum" of the PS3 and focused on the machine's 60% rise in the year-to-date sales. A spokesman at Sony's game division declined to comment further, saying it is working hard to close the quarter strong.

A key factor behind the decline in sales may be the PS3's high price. At $399, the entry-level PS3 model costs at least $150 more than the Wii or the least expensive Xbox 360. Sony emphasizes that the PS3 comes with a Blu-ray high-definition video player and an 80-gigabyte hard drive, features not available with the Wii or Xbox 360.

Microsoft cut Xbox 360 prices in early September and started bundling games with the most basic console for $199. Nintendo has maintained the Wii's initial $249 price, but sales are rising now that it has overcome an early supply shortage.

Part of Sony's strategy hinged on selling the PS3 as a relatively inexpensive Blu-ray player. But prices of Blu-ray players have fallen so sharply recently -- new players are available for less than $200 -- that it's possible to buy a Blu-ray player and an Xbox 360 for less than a PS3. Meanwhile, the economic downturn has cooled sales of flat-screen TV sets and Blu-ray players this holiday season.

Industry watchers say they were surprised Sony didn't cut PS3 prices to boost sales before the holidays. One reason may be Sony Chief Executive Howard Stringer's commitment to making the games division profitable after heavy investment in the PS3 machine. Console makers hope to eventually recoup development investment with game sales and production cost reductions. Sony is still losing money on every PS3 it sells at $399, so a price cut could push the games division back into the red, analysts say.

"With Stringer saying, 'We will be profitable,' you can't cut price," says Michael Pachter, a research analyst at Wedbush Morgan Securities in Los Angeles. He expects Sony to cut prices at the start of its new fiscal year in April, which could help boost sales.

Sony also is suffering from a lack of attractive titles that are exclusive to the PS3. Microsoft has hit the jackpot with two action-adventure game franchises, Halo and Gears of War, which are available only on the Xbox 360. Most of Nintendo's top games are made in house and playable only on the Wii.

Sony used to have a stable of exclusive games. But in recent years, Microsoft has persuaded most game publishers to release highly anticipated games to it and Sony at the same time.

Last month, four of the five best-selling U.S. games were exclusive to either the Wii or Xbox 360, according to NPD. Sony's best-selling game during the month was an action shooter game, Call of Duty: World at War from Activision Blizzard Inc. But twice as many people bought the Xbox 360 version.

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well sony took a gamble on the blue-ray and now they lost that bet and it has become poison to them. good luck PS3, you really need it.
 
Sony you IDIOTS! Just drop the god damn prices! Do they have no minds?! And they laid off like 21,000 people by the way. Stupid Wii making 2 million sales in the U.S. -only...
 
QUOTE (Narutohero @ December 30, 2008 09:51 am) Sony you IDIOTS! Just drop the god damn prices! Do they have no minds?! And they laid off like 21,000 people by the way. Stupid Wii making 2 million sales in the U.S. -only...
your the idiot, if they drop the price right now sony would lose way too much money and that could be the end for the PS for a long time.
 
Oh.... I guess I did act like an idiot for a second
. But I don't get how they would lose money. I mean if they drop prices the people that want PS3's could actually AFFORD them now. And I don't mind if exclusives go to the 360 cause I like it alot better now because of a few games that came/coming out. But the Wii... HELL NO!!!!! I don't want ANY PS3 exclusives to go to THAT!
 
QUOTE (Narutohero @ January 01, 2009 02:24 am) Oh.... I guess I did act like an idiot for a second
. But I don't get how they would lose money. I mean if they drop prices the people that want PS3's could actually AFFORD them now. And I don't mind if exclusives go to the 360 cause I like it alot better now because of a few games that came/coming out. But the Wii... HELL NO!!!!! I don't want ANY PS3 exclusives to go to THAT!
alright hero let me break it down, lets say it costs 500$ to make a single PS3 and if they sell it cheaper then that they lose money and have to pay more out of their pocket, if they reduce the prices of everything else they sell with out coming out even from making all the PS3s then they will lose to much money which would lead to the end of the PS3.
 
QUOTE (Demon_Skeith @ January 01, 2009 11:05 am) QUOTE (Narutohero @ January 01, 2009 02:24 am) Oh.... I guess I did act like an idiot for a second
. But I don't get how they would lose money. I mean if they drop prices the people that want PS3's could actually AFFORD them now. And I don't mind if exclusives go to the 360 cause I like it alot better now because of a few games that came/coming out. But the Wii... HELL NO!!!!! I don't want ANY PS3 exclusives to go to THAT!
alright hero let me break it down, lets say it costs 500$ to make a single PS3 and if they sell it cheaper then that they lose money and have to pay more out of their pocket, if they reduce the prices of everything else they sell with out coming out even from making all the PS3s then they will lose to much money which would lead to the end of the PS3.
In that case, I think they should modify the system, maybe make it with less expensive material, so they can drop the price and compete.
 
QUOTE (DSFAN121 @ January 01, 2009 01:09 pm) QUOTE (Demon_Skeith @ January 01, 2009 11:05 am) QUOTE (Narutohero @ January 01, 2009 02:24 am) Oh.... I guess I did act like an idiot for a second 
. But I don't get how they would lose money. I mean if they drop prices the people that want PS3's could actually AFFORD them now. And I don't mind if exclusives go to the 360 cause I like it alot better now because of a few games that came/coming out. But the Wii... HELL NO!!!!! I don't want ANY PS3 exclusives to go to THAT!
alright hero let me break it down, lets say it costs 500$ to make a single PS3 and if they sell it cheaper then that they lose money and have to pay more out of their pocket, if they reduce the prices of everything else they sell with out coming out even from making all the PS3s then they will lose to much money which would lead to the end of the PS3.
In that case, I think they should modify the system, maybe make it with less expensive material, so they can drop the price and compete.
The prices for the components did drop, but the PS3 didn't...
 
QUOTE (GAMER_NOW @ January 04, 2009 10:07 pm) Sony should stop making PS3 and sell what they do have. When they run out, THEN they should make more.
They should stick with the PS2 for a bit and then make a come back for the PS3 with tons of cool games and price cuts.
 
I dont know about yall but with that energy crisis and crap going on in thw world, my last thing to buy would be a PS3.
But yeah, the ps3's are expensive and a lot of people perfer xbox360 or (sadly) the Wii.
Why? I have no clue.

Also, a lot of people don't like that updating crap that comes with the ps3.
My brother had a problem updating his so he couldn't play GTA4. That would piss me off if I had that problem.

The ps3 has some pros and cons and was really a stretch. I think they did good with the console but some of it is just not what you want for a gaming console.
 
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