My Problem with Men

Naiwen

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It seems that I don't need any love potions or the like to seduce any men or guys or whatever (I don't know why they find me pretty or attractive, btw) when I'm not & having a wonderful, sunny personality when I don't. Some White man (no matter which nationality : Greeks, Russians, Scots, Irish, Germans, even Brits, French, Latinos, American Whites) said that to me when I was grocery shopping today. I dunno how to say "no", that's my problem with the opposite sex. & even many of them finding me "hot & sexy" when I don't even think of myself as "pretty" when I look at my own reflection in the mirror & these guys do
 
yeah, that I did & simply wouldn't leave me alone in a bar/lounge or a restaurant. An Africa-American guy insisted to pay my bill (in an African seafoods' place) for me when I said : it's okay, I'll pay.
 
Oh what did we men do this time?

Oh, the same issue I have.

I found that what Black Angel has said already is pretty much how I see other girls that other men would do that to, and they would badger on and on.

What I was told to do by many of some of my closest in-laws, is to simply look in the mirror and go "Hey Sexy.". I haven't tried it because I found it silly at the time, but as I think about it, it's the same thing I've done to try to motivate myself to lose weight, but the opposite way.
 
Sanaki said:
yeah, that I did & simply wouldn't leave me alone in a bar/lounge or a restaurant. An Africa-American guy insisted to pay my bill (in an African seafoods' place) for me when I said : it's okay, I'll pay.
Good. You should never, ever accept an offer from a strange man to pay for your meal, drink or anything because rest assured, unless he is just generous, and you are poor and can't afford to eat, there is no such thing as a free lunch and he will be expecting dessert later on at some point. So unless you are willing to serve peach pie al a mode while wearing a whipped cream bikini, your best bet is to not accept offers from strange men like him.

It makes me sick that there are girls out there who will intentionally lead a guy on like this and pretend like they don't know what is going on, or that they aren't doing anything wrong.

I have a personal rule regarding overly-aggressive men.

I'll only be polite to you the first time. If I have to tell you a second time, I won't be nice about it, and you will be limping away after the third time.

I honestly don't understand what some men don't understand about the word No. No means no, it doesn't mean keep trying and maybe I'll blow you, it means no. This is why there is a thing called the rejection hotline to handle guys like this. To persist, after you've been told no the first time just makes you look desperate and it makes me want to get another drink, in case you put rohypnol in the one I had already.

The only thing worse than a man who keeps trying after being told No, or I'm taken/engaged/married/gay..

Is a man who will drool around you when you are pregnant.

Anyway, you should know that as an Asian woman, you are highly fetish-sized and sexualized by a lot of men who will find you attractive for no other reason than the fact that you are Asian.. and some men, who are pretty much like Woody Allen, won't even care if you are underaged. Woody Allen is a director who adopted his current wife when he was married to his ex wife, and started sending sexually explicit pictures of himself to her when she was only 13.

They eventually had an affair shortly after that and they are now married today. You'd be surprised at how many men, not just White men, but those of all races, would want to emulate that with an Asian girl. So although there are many creeps out there, as a woman, I sympathize with you, and hope that you have picked up a bulk pack of pepper spray for your own safety. 
 
Black Angel said:
Good. You should never, ever accept an offer from a strange man to pay for your meal, drink or anything because rest assured, unless he is just generous, and you are poor and can't afford to eat, there is no such thing as a free lunch and he will be expecting dessert later on at some point. So unless you are willing to serve peach pie al a mode while wearing a whipped cream bikini, your best bet is to not accept offers from strange men like him.
 
It makes me sick that there are girls out there who will intentionally lead a guy on like this and pretend like they don't know what is going on, or that they aren't doing anything wrong.
 
I have a personal rule regarding overly-aggressive men.
 
I'll only be polite to you the first time. If I have to tell you a second time, I won't be nice about it, and you will be limping away after the third time.
 
I honestly don't understand what some men don't understand about the word No. No means no, it doesn't mean keep trying and maybe I'll blow you, it means no. This is why there is a thing called the rejection hotline to handle guys like this. To persist, after you've been told no the first time just makes you look desperate and it makes me want to get another drink, in case you put rohypnol in the one I had already.
 
The only thing worse than a man who keeps trying after being told No, or I'm taken/engaged/married/gay..
 
Is a man who will drool around you when you are pregnant.
 
Anyway, you should know that as an Asian woman, you are highly fetish-sized and sexualized by a lot of men who will find you attractive for no other reason than the fact that you are Asian.. and some men, who are pretty much like Woody Allen, won't even care if you are underaged. Woody Allen is a director who adopted his current wife when he was married to his ex wife, and started sending sexually explicit pictures of himself to her when she was only 13.
 
They eventually had an affair shortly after that and they are now married today. You'd be surprised at how many men, not just White men, but those of all races, would want to emulate that with an Asian girl. So although there are many creeps out there, as a woman, I sympathize with you, and hope that you have picked up a bulk pack of pepper spray for your own safety.
Oh & I asked him why : he just said : cause you're Asian.& I mean, in Asia, I'd be homely & even uggly to Chinese men, so yeah. & how disgusting about Woody Allen.
 
Oh, those guys are my favorite. I am not Asian, but I am multi-racial and so, I know exactly what you mean.. whenever i get some dude that it showing me way, way too much attention, and refusing to take the hint, then depending on my mood at the time, i would fuck around with them.

I have told them that I was gay, and when they asked me if they could watch, or if I could give them a chance to show me what I was missing, I always told that I have a dick and chances are, it is much bigger than theirs. I've also told them that I was a dude and whenever they've started laughing, I asked them when was the last time they've seen the back page of a Village Voice and were convinced that the models there were really chicks. I only did that once though, as I realized that I could eventually come across someone who is into everything.

But that was when I was younger though, nowadays, I just say, I'm not interested, and if they don't take the hint, then my husband walks over and tells them to have a nice day.
 
As strange as it sounds, I had similar issues with men in the past o.o

I would keep pointing out that I'm straight and not interested, but they would just insist that I won't know till I try it >.>

I'm nowhere near homophobic, but it takes all my self control not to punch a guy that walks to me, puts his hand on my hip and says I look "yummy".
 
Memento Mori said:
Memento Mori, on 27 Aug 2013 - 09:42, said:
As strange as it sounds, I had similar issues with men in the past o.o

I would keep pointing out that I'm straight and not interested, but they would just insist that I won't know till I try it >.>

I'm nowhere near homophobic, but it takes all my self control not to punch a guy that walks to me, puts his hand on my hip and says I look "yummy".
As if you were an animal of some sort, yes?
 
Sanaki said:
It seems that I don't need any love potions or the like to seduce any men or guys or whatever (I don't know why they find me pretty or attractive, btw) when I'm not & having a wonderful, sunny personality when I don't. Some White man (no matter which nationality : Greeks, Russians, Scots, Irish, Germans, even Brits, French, Latinos, American Whites) said that to me when I was grocery shopping today. I dunno how to say "no", that's my problem with the opposite sex. & even many of them finding me "hot & sexy" when I don't even think of myself as "pretty" when I look at my own reflection in the mirror & these guys do
Your problem with the opposite sex is you don't know how to say "no"..... therefore that is not your problem with the opposite sex that is your problem with your own self confidence. If you don't want something just say no. If they don't give up then make a scene in public.
 
GamerPerfection said:
Your problem with the opposite sex is you don't know how to say "no"..... therefore that is not your problem with the opposite sex that is your problem with your own self confidence. If you don't want something just say no. If they don't give up then make a scene in public.
I don't like making a scene in public, eh? What if some
police came there & took me to the police station?
 
Sanaki said:
I don't like making a scene in public, eh? What if some
police came there & took me to the police station?
You can throw "what if's" around all you want but it won't get you anywhere.

What you need to do is identify why you can't say no to men, most likely a confidence thing, and work on it.

Plus I believe you can say no, because you claim all these white men have shown their attraction to you, but how many of them have you dated? You may not have physically said no, but you still refused.
 
Sanaki said:
I don't like making a scene in public, eh? What if somepolice came there & took me to the police station?
Why would they take you to the station? If someone touches you, without your permission then it is assault.

Have some self-respect.

If a guy isn't taking the hint then you don't have to be polite to him since he isn't being polite and is disrespecting you with his refusal to leave you alone.

You are making yourself an easy target by not having any kind of self-respect or confidence, and as a result you are attracting the predatory types. These guys think you are vulnerable and will be easy prey for them, and you will be if you don't grow some balls, and a backbone and stand up for yourself.

The reason these pigs are attracted to you is because they know you have no self-confidence and in their mind, you will be an easy fuck. The sad thing is, that they are right, because it is the girls out there who lack self-worth, self-respect and self-confidence that are out there running around and acting promiscuously and will fuck a guy like it is a handshake.

Even if you aren't promiscuous, then they will mistake you being conservative for being shy or having no self-esteem and will be willing to fuck anyone. They think you are weak and they believe that with enough persistence, you will give in and they will get what they want from you. And so, these guys flock to these women like flies to shit.

These are also the same kind of men who won't think twice about slipping you something in your drink or taking advantage of you when you are drunk. So for your sake, I really hope that you don't accept drinks or anything from these guys.

Like attracts like. If you make yourself out to be easy prey, then you will only attract vultures.

If you don't want this type of attention, then do something about it. It will only change, when you do.
 
GamerPerfection said:
You can throw "what if's" around all you want but it won't get you anywhere.
 
What you need to do is identify why you can't say no to men, most likely a confidence thing, and work on it.
 
Plus I believe you can say no, because you claim all these white men have shown their attraction to you, but how many of them have you dated? You may not have physically said no, but you still refused.
Sure I can, but do they actually listen to me? No. & How do I explain myself to the police? Say a man harassed me or something? They're gonna ask me: where's your proof? How do I answer that...?

How many? None as of yet.

& Yes BA, I would never accept anything from them. (As I
did tell you about a Black guy in a restaurant...)
 
It is your body language that says as much as your voice.

I have dealt with men who refused to take a hint before, but most guys that I have turned down have taken the hint and moved on.

It is not just what you say, but HOW you say it as well. You need to be firm when you say no and not sound as if you are in McDonald's ordering something and you aren't sure about what you want.

As I have said before, if you keep making yourself out to be a victim, you will only attract those who'll take advantage of you.

It will only change, when you do. There are no ifs, ands or buts about it.
 
Sanaki said:
Sure I can, but do they actually listen to me? No. & How do I explain myself to the police? Say a man harassed me or something? They're gonna ask me: where's your proof? How do I answer that...?

How many? None as of yet.

& Yes BA, I would never accept anything from them. (As I
did tell you about a Black guy in a restaurant...)
Your problem is you worry too much about something that hasn't happened yet and something that may never happen.

I'm surprised you even leave your home considering you could get run over by a bus!
 
It seems as if these things happen to you because you allow it to happen.

I'm sorry but as much as I have dealt with rude, overly persistent men and their advances, over the years, I have never encountered the types of guys that you say you have.

And I've dealt with a lot of assholes.

The only guys that have ever touched my ass or breasts where the guys that I were sexually involved with and even then, it was behind closed doors.

And really, if you can sit up and make racist comments on a forum, then why is it that you can't speak up for yourself when you are face to face with the guys you claim are attracted to you?

You claim to not like the attention, but you refuse to do anything about it and you complain about it on the forum knowing full well that it isn't going to solve anything, so really, what is the point?

Do you like attention or something?
 
Sanaki said:
What may never happen? And it's my life, not yours, I know what happened to me.
I know it's your life and you are the one that's created multiple threads that lead back to the same thing, i.e. your life.

You earlier said "what if" the Police came and took you to the station. You said "What if" which indicates it's hypothetical. That is why I said you are worrying about things that haven't happened or may never happen. If the Police have come along and taken you to the station then it would not be a "What if".

And don't bloody say to me "it's my life not yours" when you are the one publicly posting about your life and your constantly getting groped issues. If you don't want other peoples comments on your life then don't talk about it. But if it's because i'm white male and I "don't understand" you then tough, i'm here to stay.
 
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