Science shows that Goku is more powerful than Superman
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Except the fact that the numbers they use are WAY off.
Superman has been shown to press over 200 quintillion tons. (Not 100 tons)
3- True, Goku can use instant transmission to fight/attack. But what does it matter if he can't even hurt the thing he's attacking? I mean Deathbattle showed the forces each can take and Superman's was in the Octillion Megatons range. Goku at maximum power can't hit on that level. (Since his durability and maximum output are the same due to Isaac Newton's third law given that Goku can't be forced back by his own power unless he chooses so his maximum output must be whatever he can withstand.)
Also to counter this person's 4th and 7th points... Superman can destroy a solar system with a sneeze. An involuntary reflex that doesn't even use his full power.
6- This is just a baseless assertion.
How do they trump Superman's? In what ways are they superior?
I will point out though that Goku's abilities are Ki based (which DBZ makes clear that Ki and Magic are different), he would have no advantage that way. They might have the power to push Superman or act like a bomb... But Superman is barely affected by bombs at the best of times. (Unless they're laced with kyptonite of course.)
And for the last point...
I'm going to leave this one to Vegeta.
Seriously now though, Akira Toriyama only introduced power levels to show how unreliable and useless they were. That the enemies, who constantly relied on power levels, were constantly defeated because they underestimated their opponents. And that by later in the series power levels were removed. (They weren't even given anymore because they no longer served the story.)
Plus even if we play this game and use power levels...
Superman's sits around 31.25 Sextillion ( 31,250,000,000,000,000,000,000 ) versus SSJ3 Goku 8 billion ( 8,000,000,000 ). Again, Superman comes out ahead.
Fact of the matter is, Superman just is stronger, faster and more durable than Goku. And that's fine. It's past time to let this go and just accept that Goku would lose if he had to fight Superman.
Superman has been shown to press over 200 quintillion tons. (Not 100 tons)
3- True, Goku can use instant transmission to fight/attack. But what does it matter if he can't even hurt the thing he's attacking? I mean Deathbattle showed the forces each can take and Superman's was in the Octillion Megatons range. Goku at maximum power can't hit on that level. (Since his durability and maximum output are the same due to Isaac Newton's third law given that Goku can't be forced back by his own power unless he chooses so his maximum output must be whatever he can withstand.)
Also to counter this person's 4th and 7th points... Superman can destroy a solar system with a sneeze. An involuntary reflex that doesn't even use his full power.
6- This is just a baseless assertion.
How do they trump Superman's? In what ways are they superior?
I will point out though that Goku's abilities are Ki based (which DBZ makes clear that Ki and Magic are different), he would have no advantage that way. They might have the power to push Superman or act like a bomb... But Superman is barely affected by bombs at the best of times. (Unless they're laced with kyptonite of course.)
And for the last point...
I'm going to leave this one to Vegeta.
Seriously now though, Akira Toriyama only introduced power levels to show how unreliable and useless they were. That the enemies, who constantly relied on power levels, were constantly defeated because they underestimated their opponents. And that by later in the series power levels were removed. (They weren't even given anymore because they no longer served the story.)
Plus even if we play this game and use power levels...
200 quintillion tons = 200,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons = 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 KG
200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000/32 = 6,250,000,000,000,000,000,000 * 5PL = 31,250,000,000,000,000,000,000
200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000/32 = 6,250,000,000,000,000,000,000 * 5PL = 31,250,000,000,000,000,000,000
Superman's sits around 31.25 Sextillion ( 31,250,000,000,000,000,000,000 ) versus SSJ3 Goku 8 billion ( 8,000,000,000 ). Again, Superman comes out ahead.
Fact of the matter is, Superman just is stronger, faster and more durable than Goku. And that's fine. It's past time to let this go and just accept that Goku would lose if he had to fight Superman.
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4. yeah he can destroy anything. Vageta nearly destroyed earth back with his first fight with goku.
11. Now this is debatable, but it doesn't seem like Sayians can survive in space.
12. gahhh, did this guy even watch DBZ? Goku has a body that can die from viruses which happened in the future of trunks movie. One contagious sneeze will drop him quickly.
11. Now this is debatable, but it doesn't seem like Sayians can survive in space.
12. gahhh, did this guy even watch DBZ? Goku has a body that can die from viruses which happened in the future of trunks movie. One contagious sneeze will drop him quickly.
For point 11, it's not that Goku can't survive a planet exploding (he can) it's merely that he can't actually breathe in space. So while he can survive there for a few minutes at a shot (basically as long as he can hold his breath) he's not going to be spending a lot of time there. Unlike Superman who in many instances isn't affected by a lack of oxygen at all.
Though bluntly, being able to survive in space doesn't actually help Goku out at all. I mean if he's fighting Superman in space, one good hit to his gut could knock the air out of him and mean he starts suffocating quickly.
Though bluntly, being able to survive in space doesn't actually help Goku out at all. I mean if he's fighting Superman in space, one good hit to his gut could knock the air out of him and mean he starts suffocating quickly.