Should parenting be licensed?

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Do you think before parents can have a baby born, do you think they should go through a short class and be licensed to have kids?


I say yes, all parents to be should have a class which explains what is going to be coming both physically and mentally and sit down with someone who would explain how having a kid would change their life.
 
You can't really prevent it without giving them a fine or something, because if they do it before the license. Its too late I mean what's the point.




It seems complicated, so I'm not really for it
 
I am. Too many idiots out there that make kids that also become idiots. Not very useful to society most of the time. In China, you can only have one kid, then get taxed for each kid afterwards. I like that- maintain the number of stupids. lol
 
I think a lot of high schools and elementary schools these days already teach students in Sexual Education class about having kids, and how it would change their lives. Maybe schools can change the class up a little bit to spend more time talking about parenting as well as safe sex, and make the class a required class to graduate high school, or to get a job for kids who drop out of high school.
 
Maybe in Canada, but not in the USA. I have never had a sex ed class, nor has most people, which is why the teen pregnancy has shot up; they lack education, so they don't know what they are getting themselves into.
 
If there was a good way to implement this kind of thing and is overall a good system, sure. but that will never be the case, so whatever- I think a better investment overall would be to improving education
 
Yes. There should be an IQ test as well as a thorough background check so that anyone who has scored lower than a certain amount and hasn't had a steady job for at least 5 years or makes at least $30k per year without gov't support or has been incarcerated more than once or for long periods of time won't be allowed to have children.

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Demon_Skeith said:
Do you think before parents can have a baby born, do you think they should go through a short class and be licensed to have kids?


I say yes, all parents to be should have a class which explains what is going to be coming both physically and mentally and sit down with someone who would explain how having a kid would change their life.
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It would be a complete waste of money, possibly tax payers money. People would sit there listen, then go have sex anyway and end up with a kid and still be complete bum parents. It would change nothing.

You say should they be licenced. What happens if this was real and someone had a kid when unlicenced, what happens then?

Sorry but it's a bad unthought through idea.

Parents will be parents, nothing can change that, some will be awesome some will be bums.
 
Well think about for things that do need licenses, like guns. No license? Jail and fine. You don't need to think of consequences when they are already around. Also, I'd gladly pay to prevent idiots from having kids, because then their kids may talk to my kids. I don't want my kids to be idiots like other potential people.
 
Guns would be a completely different scenario as there would be physical evidence.

With bad parenting there isn't always physical evidence. How a kid grows up isn't 100% down to the parents and if you think it is then you aren't opening your eyes wide enough. So if parents have a child unlicensed and then get a fine, so what? They pay it, if they have difficulty paying the amount then it makes their life worse and it makes the kids life worse, so in fact that government would be making the life worse for the children. Or if the parents got jailed then the child goes in to care (unless they go to other relatives) and if the child goes in to care then there's a good chance that will screw them up too.

I don't understand how anyone can think licencing is the key to this issue and how you can compare having a licence for a firearm and it's consequences can be anything like being licenced to have a child.
 
Well how can you maintain stupid people from breeding? And I was using guns as an example. There are a lot of things that need licenses, like driving, fishing, etc. And by tat logic, I could drive without a license, and get a simple fine. Not much too it then.
 
The only way for this to work would be to find a way to control fertility, even if this could be done it would have to be implemented by force and can I easily see wars breaking out over this.
If I recall correctly in China they used to arrest the family of women with more than one children to force them to get sterilized, not sure if that's still practiced.
 
GracefulAssassin said:
Well how can you maintain stupid people from breeding? And I was using guns as an example. There are a lot of things that need licenses, like driving, fishing, etc. And by tat logic, I could drive without a license, and get a simple fine. Not much too it then.
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How can you claim a person that may act stupid won't change their ways over time? Kids are generally stupid but change when they grow up. So how can you say a 18 year old couple who might seem stupid won't grow up to be smarter.

I know you were using guns as an example I read what you posted. But there is no way this would ever work. Lets take several examples of this...

Example 1 - a couple fail to become licenced - they have children anyway (because they can't be forced not to) they get fined? Ok, so they still have the child, a fine makes little difference except create financial difficulty for a couple and their children which makes the whole situation worse for the children. Or the couple get jailed which again creates a much bigger situation. Or the children are put in to care, again much bigger situation.

Example 2 - a couple become licenced - they become bum parents anyway. But it was the government that licenced them to have children. The government would take no responsibility for the parents and the children would be no better off.

Example 3 - a couple fail to become licenced - they have children anyway, but they are awesome parents. The government are likely to be blind to the fact they are awesome parents and fine them regardless just because they are unlicenced.

There is no way licencing would work in this situation. You may call some parents as bum parents but no-one knows what goes on behind closed doors besides the family in question.
 
Or the government could get dark and make the person get a vasectomy or tie there tubes. In the earlier 1900's, the US government did that to people who were deemed too stupid, or something along those lines, to have a kid. It was called the Eugenics movement. So it already did kind of happen, why not do it again?
 
Yeah,that's what the US government did in the early 1900's because they thought they were purifying the country. The Nazi's also took the Eugenics movement, and brought it to a whole new extreme during the Holocaust.
 
GracefulAssassin said:
Or the government could get dark and make the person get a vasectomy or tie there tubes. In the earlier 1900's, the US government did that to people who were deemed too stupid, or something along those lines, to have a kid. It was called the Eugenics movement. So it already did kind of happen, why not do it again?
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Because that's fucking stupid. We're not in the 1900's anymore. I can call any person stupid, that means anyone can define what stupid is. Therefore going back to what they did in the 1900's or something similar to it would be moronic.

If your government thought you were stupid would you want your dick effectively chopped off?
 
I'm not saying we should, I'm saying that is what happened. And let me rephrase what I mean when I say stupid- someone that is not going to amount to anything, besides crimes, and ends up going to jail, costing tax payers money for someone that is useless to society. Same with for lazy people that only live off of unemployment, and never bother to get a job.
 
Just because the parents might be bums doesn't me the child will grow up being a bum, but if you want to deny new life then that's up to you.

But the whole thing is ridiculous. Right now, I believe, when parents take their children out of school prior to summer holidays to take them on holiday the parents will face a fine. That is sensible and a good idea because for one it makes the parents think twice about being selfish about holidays and make them think about keeping their kid in school until the summer holidays. And two the parents may learn from it whilst their child is growing up and living.

This government or any government should not deny the right to life just because they believe the parents will be bum parents.

All of you that agree with licencing are basically saying that someone else doesn't have a right to experience life because their parents are "likely" to be bum parents and that you deserve life over that unborn child because you are already living.
 
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