The OUYA

Thanks for sharing your experience with Ouya.

I only saw videos of the Ouya, and it looks pretty good for a $99 console, and I like that the controller also has a touchpad, so it is backwards compatible with some games which need a touchpad, and is not just button and joystick control. The multimedia functions like XBMC multimedia streamer looks pretty good.

I may get one when I can buy one in Canadian stores, or I order one online someday to play a few games. I saw an Ouya trailer for Chronoblade and Raven swords 2 and they both look pretty good.
 
What are the benefits to using the Ouya when compared to using a good spec Android device?

Are there any exclusive games for it? I think any good spec Android smartphone/tablet can handle emulation (you can also connect a controller to it).
 
Marc said:
What are the benefits to using the Ouya when compared to using a good spec Android device?

Are there any exclusive games for it? I think any good spec Android smartphone/tablet can handle emulation (you can also connect a controller to it).
There's not many. You have the controller, but aside from that, I don't really think it even has any exclusives of note.
 
Marc said:
What are the benefits to using the Ouya when compared to using a good spec Android device?

Are there any exclusive games for it? I think any good spec Android smartphone/tablet can handle emulation (you can also connect a controller to it).
The Ouya is $99 which is cheaper than most tablets and smartphones with good specs, and  the Ouya comes with a controller. Plus, you don't have to charge the Ouya since it runs off your home's power. Gamers also know that games bought in the Ouya game store will work with the controller which is not true for using third-party controllers for Android where some games work for controller, and some games don't. You are also not limited to only the internal storage with the Ouya since it has USB ports for plugging in a USB hard drive or flash drive to add more storage to it when you use up the 8GB of internal space on the Ouya.

Some Ouya Exclusive games

Soul Fjord

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-gFCOrsyZg

Human Element

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MWwCH4lQhM

Broken Age

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcnGNOKJysA

Polarity

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McvWGhVXJwQ
 
I think the Ouya was an interesting idea... But I think that it's just going to struggle because there really isn't a huge market for it. (And what's worse is now they have some stiff competition from other Android based gaming systems like Nvidia's Shield, Mad Catz Mojo and soon the iConsole. )

People who want to play android games likely already have an android device that can play the games they want. (And tablets and smartphones are also improving so while Ouya's hardware might be ok and comparable to a budget tablet. Anyone going for a stronger tablet is going to have a much smoother gaming experience. And if someone did buy a budget tablet with a Tegra 3 chipset to game on, they'd also have the benefit of owning a tablet they could take anywhere with them for not much more than an Ouya costs. So it almost doesn't seem worth it to buy the Ouya.)

And, from what I've heard from reviewers, many of the games the Ouya does have are either nothing special or they have problems. They don't really have killer apps of their own yet. Most Ouya games are just ports of games from other systems. So until they start getting some developers making Ouya specific games it's hard to justify.

And as far as emulation goes... Why buy a console specifically for that if you have a computer/laptop, tablet or smart phone that can also handle emulators for free. (And that very often work just as well, if not better.)

Plus other consoles/platforms now are really picking up this idea of Indie devs... (PS4 seems genuinely interested in supporting indies. Every xbox one is supposedly a dev kit... well, when microsoft decides to release that functionality some time after launch. iOS and Android stores are already pretty good for indie devs. And then there is Steam. )

And if you're looking at buying a new console between the Ouya and PS4 (or xbox one)... there is almost no reason to buy Ouya. Not when PS4/xbox one do indie games too plus they have the support of larger game publishers too (like Capcom, EA, Ubisoft, Square-Enix, etc...)
 
The Ouya has a smaller audience, but I think it won't struggle since Ouya is not really designed to compete with Nintendo, Sony, and Microsoft, or even the mobile gaming market on phones and tablets. It is designed for people who like trying out the game with a demo, free levels, etc before deciding on if they want to buy the game, and every Ouya can be used to make a game, so new game makers can start making games for it by just buying a console for $99 to use to make and test their games.

The Ouya also made a lot of money from Kickstarter, and selling consoles at retailer. Nvidia and other companies also invested 15 million dollars in Ouya according to http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/news/article.php?storyid=6841 , so if Ouya spends the money wisely on making games, improving the games library, and making future consoles like Ouya 2, handheld Ouya, it should be doing fine at keeping its fanbase happy, and buying games.

The Ouya competitors like Nvidia Shield, Madcatz Mojo, and iConsole may give more attention to Ouya since someone buying a Nvidia Shield, or Madcatz Mojo will most likely compare similar consoles online or in stores to see which one is best for them, and may pick the Ouya for its lower $99 price tag compared to the Shield, Mojo, and iConsole which cost hundreds more.
 
It doesn't matter if they want to compete with Sony, Nintendo and microsoft or the mobile game market... They are and they can't change that fact. 
Even if Ouya is cheaper, the fact remains it's still not really worth it to most people. Not with other, better, options already out there and more on the way. 


Most people tend not to do much research... especially on gaming stuff. (People who are really into gaming and all things technology? Yeah they might do research. But anyone who is just looking to play a few games now and again? Probably not even going to bother. If anything they'll probably just stick to the big 3 consoles simply because they are so much larger and well known and have a larger array of great titles.) 

Plus even if someone hears of Shield, they might only look into it. They might not even bother looking at other viable options. So people may not even look into Ouya unless Shield directly mentions it.

If the Ouya makes a second version, things may improve. But we'll have to wait and see for certain there. 
 
An Ouya which cost $99 would not stop someone from buying a more expensive console like the Xbox 360, PS3, or even the Wii Mini which also cost $99. The PS3, 360, Wii U, and Wii would not stop everyone from buying an Ouya since the Ouya is $99, and has a different fan base of people who like retro games, indie games, 2D games, mini games, and less intensive 3D games like Shadowgun, Riptide GP, and Asphalt 8 where they don't need to buy a $300-500 console with faster parts to enjoy retro games. Gaming on a smartphone, and tablet is a different experience compared to gaming with a controller, and TV. Plus, gamers may end up spending more money using their mobile phone or tablet as a console since they also need to buy a HDMI cable, wireless bluetooth gamepad controller, external MicroSD card to install more games, a stand, and pay a more expensive monthly phone bill to buy a faster phone like the LG Nexus 4 at $199 with a 2 year contract.

There are still a large number of people who research things before buying since many people use search engines to find comparison shopping websites to compare stuff before they buy. Shopping websites like Bestbuy also have comparison tools to make it easy for people to compare two products before they make a choice on which product to buy, or they can use the search engine to compare two products by searching for both products. The un-informed buyer who walk into a store may look at, and try out an Ouya, other Android consoles, tablet, smartphone, Xbox 360 Arcade, or Wii before they choose which one to buy.

People who play a few games will most likely use their PC or Laptop, and may not buy any consoles since a console does not seem as worth it if you just plan on playing 1-5 games on it.

For casual gamers, and gamers who play a few games, and gaming isn't a big hobby in their life, the Ouya could be attractive to them since it is $99, and most of the games cost $1-15, or free because of donation, or free to play/freemium.

Some people still use regular/non-smart cell phones, and have no interest in tablets or smartphone, and Gaming PC since they are out of their price range, and cheaper subsidized smartphone have expensive monthly contracts which last 2 years unless you pay $500 to buy it without a contract. Smartphone users sometimes end up paying more in monthly subscriptions, and data limit overage fees than buying their own phone, and subscribing to a cheaper plan, or prepaid phones.

Some of the people who own other consoles like the PS4, Xbox One, Wii U, and other Micro-consoles like the Shield will also own a Ouya since many people don't limit themselves to one game console unless they choose to for different reasons. There are already 58221 Ouya sold from Kickstarter, and 3668 who donated less than $95 for a username on Ouya's online community when I added up the Ouya numbers on http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console . The Ouya also sold a lot of pre-orders, and sold out at Gamestop, Amazon, and other retailers on launch day according to http://news.cnet.com/8301-10797_3-57590867-235/ouya-launches-for-$99-already-sold-out-on-amazon-gamestop/ . It is also currently the 15th most sold console on Amazon.ca : http://www.amazon.ca/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=sv_vg_3

There is an audience for Ouya which may get bigger over time. There is also the hacker audience who plan on using the Ouya for XBMC media streaming, using android apps, custom roms, Emulation, Ubuntu mobile, and tons of other projects on a $99 hackable console which is also an Android computer when a mouse and keyboard is connected wirelessly or with wired.

The Ouya could be like Linux, and Apple where the user population is a lot smaller than Windows, but there are enough users to keep them both going.
 
Currently there are roughly 400 games on Ouya last time I checked... which is way more than most consoles start out with. I heard the controller looks and feels a little flimsy but I've never had an opportunity to try one. I love android so that's why I am very interested in the Ouya.

I do think that you should be able to play games you've bought on a android phone on the console without rebuying them. Not sure how that works to be honest. The development tools and hackability while virtually useless for me is probably a large plus for many out there.
 
If you also include emulators, onlive cloud gaming, PC game streaming with an App and Wifi, and web browser games which the Ouya can play the number of games + unofficial Ouya games people can play on the Ouya is huge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UHHzV3_nNQ

I saw videos on YouTube of people using the PS3, and wired Xbox 360 controller on the Ouya, so it is possible to use alternative controllers as well. Although, I heard the final version of the controller for Ouya fixed most of the main complaints of the buttons from the Beta versions of the Ouya.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1efJfxrGFo

I think you can sideload apps by backing up the APK file, and loading it to The Ouya with a USB flash drive or hard drive to install on the Ouya. I think you can also install the Amazon App Store on the Ouya with the Amazon App store APK according to http://dottech.org/124272/how-to-install-amazon-app-store-on-ouya/ .

I think all of the Ouya versions of the Apps which you can get from Google Play, and Amazon App store hide the on-screen controls, and maybe better optimized for the Ouya which CPU is overclocked to 1.6 GHz instead of 1.3 GHz which is the Tegra 3's regular speed for phones and tablet because phones and tablets run off of a battery, and don't have a small cooling fan like the Ouya, so rebuying the games without those distracting on-screen buttons, and better speed and graphics settings/updated because of a faster 1.6GHz CPU/GPU on the Ouya could be worth it.

The development tools and hackability could be useful for users because more smaller companies can more easily create games, apps, and third-party hardware and controllers for the Ouya with fewer difficulties because Ouya is an open platform with less restrictions.
 
Awesome, so you can run android emulators on Ouya. WHile probably obvious I never thought of that... . So your saying that to get games without on-screen buttons you may sometimes have to buy from the amazon app store? Strange I would think you'd have the option to hide the on screen controls. I may actually buy one of these now since I like the idea of using an xbox controller and playing games on the t.v. as opposed to my small 5" phone screen lol. Thanks for the vids too I watched most of both.
 
minotechonline said:
Awesome, so you can run android emulators on Ouya. WHile probably obvious I never thought of that... . So your saying that to get games without on-screen buttons you may sometimes have to buy from the amazon app store? Strange I would think you'd have the option to hide the on screen controls. I may actually buy one of these now since I like the idea of using an xbox controller and playing games on the t.v. as opposed to my small 5" phone screen lol. Thanks for the vids too I watched most of both.
I meant the Ouya App store sell apps without on-screen buttons because the Ouya has a real physical controller, sp it does not need on-screen buttons. The Amazon App store can be sideloaded into the Ouya.
 
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