Why Japan isn't buying the 3DS...

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Here are the reasons apparently:


1. Price is high/waiting for a price drop

Hasn't the price already started dropping in many stores?

2. Satisfied by DS/DSi

This could be a problem for Nintendo. People apparently see no reason to move to the 3DS.

3. Worried about eye strain
4. Worried about getting sick from the screen

I think those public panic articles and tabloid scare stories seem to be unfortunately working.

5. Few launch titles
6. Will buy once a game I want is released

Extremely obvious.

7. Satisfied by cell phone and smartphone games

Oh dear. It's a less popular possibility than the industry wants to make it out to be, but there's definitely a way handhelds might be becoming obsolete.

8. Satisfied by PSP

Oh dear again. Nintendo needs some good games sharpish.

9. The battery is weak

?

10. It's heavy and I don't feel like carrying it with me

Huh?

11. Can't play Game Boy Advance games

I wonder if this means that a lot less people bought the DSi in Japan...

12. The color I want isn't available

So people looked at this site's logo and said they wanted it?

13. Can't play Game Boy games

Can't be that important, otherwise the DS itself should have failed over there.

14. I'll save my money for NGP, thank you very much

...

15. Waiting for a version with a larger screen

I guess I get where they're coming from.

16. Because you can't move your DSi Points over

Bit petty, but valid.

17. The buttons layout looks hard to use

Definitely an issue, especially with 2D games. I hear the controls aren't exactly great for 2D Mario games and the like.

18. No Famicom/NES in the Virtual Console

People assumedly want home console games on the 3DS Virtual Console.

19. The zoom view for DS games is hard on the eyes

Huh?

20. Waiting until my friend buys it

Peer pressure at its finest! Although considering how Japan seems to have moved to playing handhelds and 'social' games, I guess I see where they're coming from.

Original Survey

http://cache001.ranking.goo.ne.jp/crnk/ranking/027/nintendo3ds_notbuy/p2/

1,110 people voted, and 39.5% were male, 60.5% female.


Source:


http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/06/01/goo_3ds_survey/

So, thoughts? Which of these reasons are making you not buy a 3DS at the moment?
 
This list applies to all countries. But I think the main reason is.... there aren't any games out. I'm sure some people are thinking "Where's Mario?"
 
I agree with number 2. I'm fine with my DSi. It does everything a 3DS does besides play in 3D.
 
And play 3DS games, and have comparable graphics and processing capabilities (the 3DS's are much better).
I can't really tell whether you're just being sparse with information or whether you actually believe it, but it seems a good many people are under the illusion that the 3DS is simply a DS with stereoscopic 3D.
This is of course emphatically not true (by that token, the PS3 would simply be a PS2 with a hard drive), but this fallacy could certainly have damaged sales.
 
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Dark Young Link said:
I agree with number 2. I'm fine with my DSi. It does everything a 3DS does besides play in 3D.
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Believe me,its twice as good as a dsi.10x as good when good games come out.
 
Well no good games are coming out for it yet and I don't see any soon.

For example...

OoT3DS: OoT is good, but it didn't need to be redone. It has many ports as it is and I'm sure that PH and ST proved that Zelda was not meant for handhelds.

Paper Mario 3DS: I know nothing of it so I can't say much, but I don't see how 3D effects could work here.

Those are like the other 2 games that come to mind. I could say Rayman 3DS, but it's just a port of Rayman DS, which is a port of Rayman 2 The Great Escape, which is a port of the PS2 version, which is a port of the N64 version and it's the same as OoT with all the ports, but worse.

Besides I have this feeling the 3DS will live just as long as the Virtual Boy because it's basically that. In hand held form.
 
1. Price is high/waiting for a price drop
this is ok i guess.but if you think that is high,just wait for the "NGP"

2. Satisfied by DS/DSi
Well I sure wasnt.3ds does way more and its way better.Not like a DS at all.

3. Worried about eye strain
Just turn the 3d off for a while or look away for a while and this goes away!

4. Worried about getting sick from the screen
Ive never even heard of this one.Probably some dumb rumor.

5. Few launch titles
I COMPLETELY AGREE! #1 REASON I NEED MARIO!

6. Will buy once a game I want is released
I dont even have a game yet.Another really good reason.

7 (smartphone games) is just dumb. Smartphone games are entrtaining for about 5 minutes.And some of them are even coming to the esho like Angry Birds(which is the only smartphone game i like).

8. Satisfied by PSP
Psps are horrible.No good games.I suspect sony fanboys. *suspicious eyes*

9. The battery is weak
No its not.It lasts 10x longer than a smartphone.

10. It's heavy and I don't feel like carrying it with me
Kinda true.I carry it around to get play coins (even in a gym on a treadmill
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) and it gets bothersome.Still,they couldnt've made it any lighter.

11. Can't play Game Boy Advance games
They should really put them in the eshop!

12.The color I want isn't available
Thats really stupid.But sadly, my sister said she might not get one until a red one comes out.

13.Can't play Game Boy games
If you mean the original gameboy,then you actually can.

14. I'll save my money for NGP, thank you very much
Your gonna have to save alotta money,sony fanboys

15. Waiting for a version with a larger screen
That seems ok,if you want a bigger one.

16. Because you can't move your DSi Points over
Stupid,if youre stupid enough to put a ton on at one time,then just buy some dsiware and send it to your 3ds.


17. The buttons layout looks hard to use
I have experience with this.It works much better with full movement games,but worse with sidescrolling games.Not much of a reason though.

18. No Famicom/NES in the Virtual Console
I really want super nes on it.better reason than some of these.

19. The zoom view for DS games is hard on the eyes
If they use sprites,then its kind true.

20. Waiting until my friend buys it
lame.

I wonder what percentage were fanboys and trolls.hmmmm

Pretty dumb reasons.
 
Dark Young Link said:
Well no good games are coming out for it yet and I don't see any soon.

For example...

OoT3DS: OoT is good, but it didn't need to be redone. It has many ports as it is and I'm sure that PH and ST proved that Zelda was not meant for handhelds.

Paper Mario 3DS: I know nothing of it so I can't say much, but I don't see how 3D effects could work here.

Those are like the other 2 games that come to mind. I could say Rayman 3DS, but it's just a port of Rayman DS, which is a port of Rayman 2 The Great Escape, which is a port of the PS2 version, which is a port of the N64 version and it's the same as OoT with all the ports, but worse.

Besides I have this feeling the 3DS will live just as long as the Virtual Boy because it's basically that. In hand held form.
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I don't even know where to begin with this. It's like you've gone out of your way to be awkward and ignorant.
For starters, Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks have 'proven' nothing. Aside from the fact that they actually worked pretty well, and most reviewers agree on this, they were very much limited by the DS's graphical and processing capabilities. The 3DS has no such limitations, so there is no reason it should not work.

Secondly, how is it that you can't see how 3D effects would work with Paper Mario? Super Paper Mario had already introduced sections that played on a 3D plane, and this can be expanded upon. And even on a 2D plane, 3D effects would still work fine. You would have different layers, so it would seem you were looking at a series of cardboard cutouts at varying distances from each other, which would of course suit the whole premise of Paper Mario perfectly.

Finally, your closing comment. You're just being petulant here, aren't you? The 3DS is nothing like the Virtual Boy. The only similarity is that they both allow games to be played in stereoscopic 3D. Aside from that, they are poles apart.
 
Not to mention that there ARE other portable Zeldas that aren't PH and ST.

Remakes ARE different from ports. Very different.
 
While I don't think the Ocarina of Time remake is a bad idea, you're still a bit optimistic towards Spirit Tracks. It didn't sell as bad as I thought, but it still sold way less than any Zelda game prior to Twilight Princess on a home console, and it sold worse than Link's Awakening.

What reviewers think is pretty irrelevant towards whether a series is succeeding, a series never succeeds by losing popularity to please a niche market only.

Phantom Hourglass though, did do pretty well.
 
I hated the DS zelda games only because of the controls.Now that theres a slide pad,hopefully they'll never do that aain.
 
Nin3DS said:
Here are the reasons apparently:


1. Price is high/waiting for a price drop

Hasn't the price already started dropping in many stores?

2. Satisfied by DS/DSi

This could be a problem for Nintendo. People apparently see no reason to move to the 3DS.

3. Worried about eye strain
4. Worried about getting sick from the screen

I think those public panic articles and tabloid scare stories seem to be unfortunately working.

5. Few launch titles
6. Will buy once a game I want is released

Extremely obvious.

7. Satisfied by cell phone and smartphone games

Oh dear. It's a less popular possibility than the industry wants to make it out to be, but there's definitely a way handhelds might be becoming obsolete.

8. Satisfied by PSP

Oh dear again. Nintendo needs some good games sharpish.

9. The battery is weak

?

10. It's heavy and I don't feel like carrying it with me

Huh?

11. Can't play Game Boy Advance games

I wonder if this means that a lot less people bought the DSi in Japan...

12. The color I want isn't available

So people looked at this site's logo and said they wanted it?

13. Can't play Game Boy games

Can't be that important, otherwise the DS itself should have failed over there.

14. I'll save my money for NGP, thank you very much

...

15. Waiting for a version with a larger screen

I guess I get where they're coming from.

16. Because you can't move your DSi Points over

Bit petty, but valid.

17. The buttons layout looks hard to use

Definitely an issue, especially with 2D games. I hear the controls aren't exactly great for 2D Mario games and the like.

18. No Famicom/NES in the Virtual Console

People assumedly want home console games on the 3DS Virtual Console.

19. The zoom view for DS games is hard on the eyes

Huh?

20. Waiting until my friend buys it

Peer pressure at its finest! Although considering how Japan seems to have moved to playing handhelds and 'social' games, I guess I see where they're coming from.
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My thoughts:
Legit, legit, eh, eh, yes, yes, what the-?, eh, I never saw that as a problem, wtf, eh, wat, mm..., *bites the person who said that*, huh?, sure, :/, sure, what is this I don't even, eh.
 
I'm going to purposely re-visit this thread in the future if it still exists just so I can have a good laugh seeing how different things will be. Japan's a whole different culture man, their pros and cons are going to be completely different from those of Europe, the rest of Asia, Australia, the Americas, and what ever country/continent Nintendo expands market to.

The whole eyestrain scare will be irrelevant as soon as every one and their Moms have a cellphone or portable device that projects 3D, which many companies are starting to do.

Price will drop, more high profile games are developed, the traditional shovelware begins to fly of the production line, new firmware= new features, etc.

Also the thing about the PSP and NGP is not influence by fanboyism. Both the DS and PSP have an established market in Japan. They already have an established library of games and the price is at a low compared to the 3DS. People naturally respond to both the lowest bid and familiarity. Soon this will be experienced on the 3DS, as well as the NGP/Vita. You also have to understand that the NGP/Vita is a whole other beast in the handheld world. Two different experiences, just as the DS and PSP were compared when they first launched.

This cycle never gets old.
 
PSP died on me after a year so screw that.

NGP has been delayed to beginning of 2012 so good luck finding something to keep you entertained for half a year.

Sony only make hardcore games, which some of us don't want.
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<-- to Sony from me
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Current smartphones have the WORST hardware in the world.

3D thing is such a scare, I was reading NGamer and it was taking Murdoch **** that came up with stuff that was a load of crap. Then it took the mickey out of it. Well dome to you NGamer.


Just wait for Mario 3DS and Mariokart 3DS. Then watch the sales rise...
 
Also Japan did have a gigantic Earthquake. I think priorities are a little different for some people right now.

Also Smart phones have sucky games. They will get there, but they aren't even close yet.
 
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