Windows 10 will force automatic updates

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Windows 10 is launching on July 29 and we’re learning a bit more about some of the smaller — but still very important – details ahead of the launch. Take for example the license agreement, which basically tells end users that their machines are going to install the latest Windows 10 updates whether they want them or not.

For enterprise users, where things can get a lot more complicated with updates, Microsoft has a Windows Update for Business panel with a bit more control.

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I think this is a way for Microsoft to convince people to buy the more expensive Enterprise/Pro version of Windows 10 instead of the regular version of 10, or the free versions like Windows 10 with Bing.

The enterprise version of Windows 10 will lets you choose if you want to have updates installed automatically or no, but you need to pay more for the enterprise version.
 
GamesToEnjoy said:
I don't think this is a bad thing.
Even today before the Windows 10 upgrade I use automatic update, and I never encountered a problem because of it...
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don't mean you won't, takes one bad update to mess up a system.
 
Demon_Skeith said:
don't mean you won't, takes one bad update to mess up a system.
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I agree, there could be one bad update which would mess up a system. I bet, a lot of people would install a firewall program to Block Windows Update from automatically installing updates, or use another operating system like Linux until they know the updates for Windows won't mess up Windows.

Automatic Updates can also cause the internet, and slower computers to slowdown when you need a lot of speed like online gaming, or streaming video, so they can slow down your web browsing, and gaming experience when updates are downloading and installing.
 
I haven't encountered any faulty updates on Windows so far, so I agree with GamesToEnjoy. I won't use any firewall program to block automatic updates. I always allow the automatic updates to run freely, and so far each updates seem to make my PC faster. On the contrary, postponing the updates seems to make the browsing more sluggish.
 
The likely reason they made auto update mandatory isn't to force people to upgrade to a more expensive version. (Most people probably aren't even likely to be aware that a more expensive version will let them do this.)

The more likely reason is simply that most people suck at keeping their systems updated. They forget update and then suddenly find themselves hit with some malware  because their OS is 9 months out of date with updates and was easily able to exploit a vulnerability.

Plus (as an aside) most people, when given the option, leave things set to whatever the default is. So if Microsoft were to set auto-updates to on, 90-95% of people would never bother changing it because they either don't know or don't care. Typically only power-users would care about this. 

That stated, I'm kind of worried because windows update isn't always great. There have been times faulty patches have made their way to users (hence why Samsung got in trouble recently... because they stopped auto-update to prevent a Microsoft issued USB driver from breaking user's USB ports. While they wanted to help users, they went about it in a crappy way.) And then there are times when Microsoft has pushed updates that users may not have wanted. Like recently when they pushed that update KB3035583 to install the windows 10 notification on your taskbar. (You can safely remove that update I've listed through the control panel and it won't hut your computer if you want to stop that icon from showing up in your taskbar.)


And what if we are forced to accept an update we don't want? Can we still remove it? Or do we have to completely mess up the OS to remove it? (Like rip out the normal updater and install a heavily modified version that allows users the choice? Or can we even do that?) 
 
alakazam said:
I haven't encountered any faulty updates on Windows so far, so I agree with GamesToEnjoy. I won't use any firewall program to block automatic updates. I always allow the automatic updates to run freely, and so far each updates seem to make my PC faster. On the contrary, postponing the updates seems to make the browsing more sluggish.
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I've seen some gamers worried about the update suddenly happening while playing a game and mess up their net connection


VirusZero said:
The likely reason they made auto update mandatory isn't to force people to upgrade to a more expensive version. (Most people probably aren't even likely to be aware that a more expensive version will let them do this.)

The more likely reason is simply that most people suck at keeping their systems updated. They forget update and then suddenly find themselves hit with some malware  because their OS is 9 months out of date with updates and was easily able to exploit a vulnerability.

Plus (as an aside) most people, when given the option, leave things set to whatever the default is. So if Microsoft were to set auto-updates to on, 90-95% of people would never bother changing it because they either don't know or don't care. Typically only power-users would care about this. 

That stated, I'm kind of worried because windows update isn't always great. There have been times faulty patches have made their way to users (hence why Samsung got in trouble recently... because they stopped auto-update to prevent a Microsoft issued USB driver from breaking user's USB ports. While they wanted to help users, they went about it in a crappy way.) And then there are times when Microsoft has pushed updates that users may not have wanted. Like recently when they pushed that update KB3035583 to install the windows 10 notification on your taskbar. (You can safely remove that update I've listed through the control panel and it won't hut your computer if you want to stop that icon from showing up in your taskbar.)


And what if we are forced to accept an update we don't want? Can we still remove it? Or do we have to completely mess up the OS to remove it? (Like rip out the normal updater and install a heavily modified version that allows users the choice? Or can we even do that?) 
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Even if you do remove it, the update checker will see it missing and just download and install another.
 
Demon_Skeith said:
Even if you do remove it, the update checker will see it missing and just download and install another.
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I bet, Windows 10 users can still upgrade to the Enterprise version in the regular version of 10 like previous versions of Windows like Vista, and 7 which allows you to pay extra money to MS to unlock paid features found in more expensive versions of Windows with more features like disabling Windows Updates, hiding unwanted Windows updates, and more permission controls for Windows, your files, folders, and drives in the Enterprise version of Windows 10 instead of the regular version which is missing a lot of features which are in the enterprise version.
 
I don't know if windows 10 would download another copy of the updater if you removed the installed one and installed your own heavily modified version (or installed a hack for it that basically restored the functionality of windows 7 or 8's update centre). Though I would imagine that people are going to find out in a hurry.
 
Demon_Skeith said:
Should I ever be forced onto W10 one day, I'll upgrade to the version that gives me control.
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I also want the Enterprise version of Windows 10 which gives me the most control. I bet, a lot of good Windows Gaming computers will come with the Enterprise version of Windows 10 because Gamers want more control over their PC.

Plus, Pro PC Gamers who compete in Major League Gaming, or stream on Twitch will not want Windows 10 to auto download and install updates when their PC is connected to the internet because it can slow down their computer, internet, and network speeds which can make their gaming experience  laggy.

Major League of Gaming gaming computer network may also be very slow if all the competitors' gaming pcs are automatically downloading Windows updates at the same time when connected to the internet. If there are many computers automatically downloading Windows updates at the same time, it may overload the network/internet connections which make multi-player PC gaming slow.
 
alakazam said:
So, today is the day! Are you excited about the launch? I already know people from other forums who said they will be upgrading in the next 24 hours.
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I'm not excited with the launch of Windows 10 mainly because I'm fine with Windows 8.1, and 7. I may upgrade to 10 in the future when I know it is compatible with all my hardware, and software I use on a daily basis, and 10 is very stable like 7.

I'm also still worried about bad Windows 10 Automatic update, which can't be disabled with the new update disable tool, will break Windows where I can't login to WINDOWS causing me to need to clean install Windows, and reinstalling ALL of my PROGRAMS and GAMES AGAIN causing me to WASTE hours reinstalling WINDOWS, and my PROGRAMS on my PC.
 
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