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Just saw the trailer, pricing details, and games:

Stadia will launch in November, Google announced.
The platform will be available in the following packages:
  • Stadia Pro($9.99 a month, three months included in Founder’s Edition)
    • Resolution: Up to 4K
    • Frame rate: 60 FPS
    • Sound: 5.1 surround sound
    • Buy games whenever you want: Yes
    • Additional free games released regularly: Yes, starting with Destiny 2: The Collection
    • Stadia Pro-exclusive discounts on select game purchases: Yes
  • Stadia Base(free) – Launches in 2020
    • Resolution: Up to 1080p
    • Frame rate: 60 FPS
    • Sound: Stereo
    • Buy games whenever you want: Yes
    • Additional free games released regularly: No
    • Stadia Pro-exclusive discounts on select game purchases: No
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The Stadia Founder’s Edition is a $129 physical purchase that includes a “Night Blue” color controller, Chromecast Ultra device, three months of Stadia Pro, a Founder’s badge, a Buddy Pass to play with a friend, and a Stadia Name.
The following games and more will be playable on Stadia:
  • Assassin’s Creed Odyssey (Ubisoft)
  • Baldur’s Gate III (Larian Studios)
  • Borderlands 3 (2K Games)
  • The Crew 2 (Ubisoft)
  • The Division 2 (Ubisoft)
  • Darksiders: Genesis (THQ Nordic)
  • Destiny 2: The Collection (Bungie)
  • Doom Eternal (Bethesda Softworks)
  • Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2 (Bandai Namco)
  • The Elder Scrolls Online (Bethesda Softworks)
  • Farming Simulator 19 (Focus Home Interactive)
  • Final Fantasy XV (Square Enix)
  • Football Manager 2020 (Sega)
  • Get Packed (Coatsink)
  • Ghost Recon: Breakpoint (Ubisoft)
  • GRID (Deep Silver)
  • Just Dance 2020 (Ubisoft)
  • Metro Exodus (Deep Silver)
  • Mortal Kombat 11 (Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment)
  • NBA 2K (2K Games)
  • Power Rangers: Battle for the Grid (nPlay)
  • Rage 2 (Bethesda Softworks)
  • Rise of the Tomb Raider (Square Enix)
  • Samurai Shodown (Athlon Games)
  • Shadow of the Tomb Raider (Square Enix)
  • Thumper (Drool)
  • Tomb Raider (Square Enix)
  • Trials Rising (Ubisoft)
  • Wolfenstein: Youngblood (Bethesda Softworks)
 
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The main hurdle will be the internet speed requirement as mentioned by Kotaku and Cnet:

The company also offered up some guidelines as to the types of network speed requirements it has for various qualities of gameplay: 10Mbps for 720/60fps stereo, roughly 20Mbps for 1080/60fps HDR with 5.1 surround audio, and 35Mbps for 4K/60fps HDR video with 5.1 surround.

That's all well and good, but don't assume that meeting Google's internet speed requirements means you'll be able to play at the stated quality. They're the minimum, but not necessarily sufficient, conditions.

Google -- like many of the PC cloud-gaming services -- doesn't mention the other, more important issues that usually affect your experience as exemplified by Nadia Oxford's tweet: the network. If you're getting potato streaming, then local network congestion is what's mashing it.

Think of it as being able to drive 75 mph on the highway, but then you hit the city and your speed unavoidably drops to an average of 25 mph. That number encompasses a lot of stop and go. While these services will test your network, and even in some cases include jitter and other types of network latency data in its calculations, like stop-and-go traffic it can bottleneck by surprise at any moment. And none of it even factors in a given device's connection stability.

In other words, even if you're getting 500Mbps with no latency when Google checks your network, at any point while you're playing, the entire block may start streaming some random playoff game in 4K HDR and those packets interweave with your game packets, interrupting how smoothly they're flowing. Google fails to lay out any of the details, such as maximum jitter and latency, that you'd want to see before plopping down your $130/£119 for a Founder's Edition preorder.

The internet requirements for Stadia are a major red flag. Back at GDC Google Stadia chief Phil Harrison told our sister site Kotaku that you’d need just 25 Mbps download speeds be able to play games in the highest available quality (4K, 60fps, HDR, and 5.1 surround sound). This week Andrey Doronichev, Director of Product Management on Stadia, told me that the requirement for the highest quality had increased.

“We have an updated guidance here,” he said. “You actually need 10 Mbps to stream at least 720p, but actually, it could be higher depending on specific details of the kind of network situation or your game. And then to comfortably stream 4K—the best experience—we recommend 35Mbps.”

That means you need 10 Mbps more than originally anticipated for that top tier experience. That’s not good! Google didn’t improve performance since the announcement. It just got more realistic about what delivering high quality would require.

The trouble is that internet speeds in the U.S. is garbage. As I’ve noted a number of times only 1 in 5 households have 25Mbps. It’s estimated that 162.8 million Americans don’t even have access to internet better than 25Mbps. Did you watch the Stadia stream today? Did it hiccup for you like it hiccuped for me? That’s likely what you’ll get with your video games too, only instead of just seeing a blurry stream you’ll lose an hour of gameplay because you couldn’t see the bad guy and died because your stream was all blurry.
 
Maybe if they can put some good exclusives game...
 
The list of Stadia games is good for people who never played most of these games before on PC and console. Hopefully, more games are added to Stadia in the future.
 
This won't be popular, our internet network infrastructure just isn't there. So the question is, is it good enough to sustain this till we can get to that point?
Is 35mbps a problem in the USA? That’s fr 4k apparently. 10mbps for 720p. That’s not an issue at all in the UK at least don’t know how other countries fair with speed.
 
So I'm somewhat confused so if someone could clarify that would be great. I pay a monthly fee for the service where I get SOME free games. But for other games, I have to buy them. For the games that I buy, I can stream them whenever, even if I'm on the free service, right?
 
So I'm somewhat confused so if someone could clarify that would be great. I pay a monthly fee for the service where I get SOME free games. But for other games, I have to buy them. For the games that I buy, I can stream them whenever, even if I'm on the free service, right?

Yes I think so. Basically the paid service is just offering some free games and higher game streaming quality with faster internet speed requirement.
 
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Considering the free games probably won't be that great especially at the start, you basically have to pay £8.99 per month to be able to stream a 4K game that you have to buy. Lovely :laughing:
 
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