So it turns out the person saying 'Samus is transgender' is an idiot...

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The only time Samus was every transgender was back when it first came out and even still she wasn't transgender. Everyone assumed that under that kick ass suit was a man, but it was a woman and everyone freaked out. In a previous topic you said something about a guide writer being told Samus was male, but it was probably a trick by Nintendo to cover up her gender. I mean sure they could've said she was a girl, but that would make the prize at the end (seeing Zero Suit Samus) pointless because the point of that was to blow everyone's mind.

I could be wrong about that, but that why I think there were two different answers, but I believe Samus always always intended to be a girl.
 
Was it not obvious simply by the fact that they posted that a character that has always been female is transgender?
 
Was it not obvious simply by the fact that they posted that a character that has always been female is transgender?

Yeah, pretty much. Honestly, most of the people involved in this crap are the worst kind of scumbags you can imagine. The current gaming press needs to die out and fast.
 
Yeah, pretty much. Honestly, most of the people involved in this crap are the worst kind of scumbags you can imagine. The current gaming press needs to die out and fast.
What? The worst scumbags ever? Hardly. And I don't think being a crazy woman ranting on twitter labels her as part of the press, unless she's actually part of some official news media website or something.

The sad thing is, she could be spending her efforts to work towards encouraging others to create new characters that are transgendered/gay/bi/any other sexual/gender related thing you can possibly think of. It would make a much bigger impact on today's world to broaden our new horizons, rather then force part of our history into a mould it can't fit in.

Ironically, most of the transgendered people I've seen (never encountered anyone I know if in real life, only seen on TV and the such), don't necessarily want to be known as transgendered, they want to be refereed to as either a man or woman, whatever they've changed too. I rarely see anyone who's intention is to be as flamboyant about it as possible, they just want to be treated with the same dignity and respect as everyone else in their new 'gender class'. So honestly, a character who's transgendered in a game would most likely not be walking around declaring it everywhere, it'd just be a neat little blurb in the character bio in the game's manual. A character's sexual orientation/gender selection wouldn't really affect the gameplay in any way, just make some people feel better about themselves- which is great! But not mind blowing either.
 
What? The worst scumbags ever? Hardly.
I think I can agree with him, but only on the people who try to force everything to be LGBT/gender fluid whichever. I'm all for putting characters with those traits into the various types of media, and moving for their inclusion into video games, but don't try to force that onto everything that exists.
 
I think I can agree with him, but only on the people who try to force everything to be LGBT/gender fluid whichever. I'm all for putting characters with those traits into the various types of media, and moving for their inclusion into video games, but don't try to force that onto everything that exists.
I mean yeah, those people are kind of awful. But some of the worst scumbags imaginable? Ya'll are setting the bar kind of low in terms of general awfulness. I mean, she's just some crazy woman ranting on twitter, easily ignored by anyone with a brain.

It's a shame that people like her end up making a mockery of a legitimate concern in the gaming world though. People can much more easily glaze over these types of issues when there's a bunch of idiots taking up the limelight, making everyone else look bad.

I don't see why you'd want to make Samus into a transgendered character anyway. She's one of the first, and only, bad ass female characters in gaming, especially Sci-Fi. Let her do her own job! It seems like now that we can have complex games like Dragon Age: Inquisition, where your gender and sexual orientation actually matter to the gameplay, I'd be waaaaay more interested in making new characters for THOSE, rather then blurting into the wind "Oh yeah, and this dude who jumps and shoots? She's Transgender. Doesn't affect gameplay at all. Just thought you should know." I mean, the only reason Samus being female matters at all is because she was essentially the first female character in a game that was more than kidnap bait, and every gamer had assumed she was a he, and was shocked by the initial reveal. Like, who cares, unless it has something to do with the game?
 
Ironically, most of the transgendered people I've seen (never encountered anyone I know if in real life, only seen on TV and the such), don't necessarily want to be known as transgendered, they want to be refereed to as either a man or woman, whatever they've changed too. I rarely see anyone who's intention is to be as flamboyant about it as possible, they just want to be treated with the same dignity and respect as everyone else in their new 'gender class'.


I have several TG friends and they do label themselves as TG online (every one of them sticking the TG or M2F after their names / aliases). but when in public, yes, prefer to be called "she".

Everything else you've stated I agree with. Especially love the last comment, hun. I remember as a kid when I beat Metroid and saw it was a she my friend and I both went "wait, what?" And then when we learned the Justin Bailey code... HAH! It blew our minds.

You've got me thinking now, though... how would a TG love scene work in inquisition.... bet the masses would FLIP! My elven female was fully nude with Blackwall's love making... the media would have a field day if she had a package between her legs in that scene, I bet!
 
I have several TG friends and they do label themselves as TG online (every one of them sticking the TG or M2F after their names / aliases). but when in public, yes, prefer to be called "she".

Everything else you've stated I agree with. Especially love the last comment, hun. I remember as a kid when I beat Metroid and saw it was a she my friend and I both went "wait, what?" And then when we learned the Justin Bailey code... HAH! It blew our minds.

You've got me thinking now, though... how would a TG love scene work in inquisition.... bet the masses would FLIP! My elven female was fully nude with Blackwall's love making... the media would have a field day if she had a package between her legs in that scene, I bet!
I was so disappointed in Inquisition- I essentially never roll a female, or a caster, or an elf, and decided to be different this time around and play a female elven caster. And then neither Cassandra OR Dorian would flirt with me cause I wasn't a guy. :( Drat! Who knew I'd get screwed over because Cassandra isn't gay, and Dorian is? Much disappoint! I'm rolling a dude when I start it again! XD

But yeah, I mostly meant in 'public', or typical game situations. It's not really believable for someone to, say, introduce themselves with the preface of being gay, or transgender, or anything like that, it just isn't something that would typically come up in a conversational situation unless it was specifically about that, you know? So unless you're shoehorning it in for the effect of -this character is GAY- in your game, or the game specifically has a romantic scene, it just doesn't seem like something that's needed to openly state in your game. Hence it being more a 'trivia' style thing, rather then a necessary element. To me, that sort of thing seems like the normal kind of subtle things you'd encounter in real life- and that sort of thing doesn't show up as much in games.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, that in most games it seems like the only way being transgender, gay, bi, etc would be noticeable in the slightest would be if the character were ridiculously flamboyant about it- romantic/sexual games as an obvious exception. I mean, most games don't focus on that aspect of character, it's more like 'princess kidnapped, must rescue!' which doesn't necessarily imply that you're doing the rescuing and then intending to shag said princess. You could just be doing something nice, or because it's the right thing to do, or your a badass knight or the like. And I realize that there ARE gay/trangender/bi/whatever people that are very flamboyant but unless it were done very well (kind of like Dorian from Inquisition, flamboyant, but not rudely so) a flamboyant character might easily come off as being a mockery of said group of people in a media situation. Seems a prickly patch to cross with how sensitive people are- wouldn't want it to come off as an unintended insult! I bet a lot of the larger game producers like EA and such are hesitant to attempt because of that...
 
I'm going to start a campaign to make Nintendo acknowledge that Birdo is a straight, white male so I have better representation in Mario enemies and someone I can connect with.
 
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