Twitter is 10 years old

lb

愛してるザラ
Full GL Member
Credits
150
Twitter celebrated 10 years of existence by emailing their members an anniversary message:

38581623.peg.jpeg


http://mashable.com/2016/03/20/twitter-10-year-anniversary/#d7VjZP5elqqF
 
I haven't received any emails and I made 12k tweets and over 4k followers. Yet I'm still older than twitter :) by 12 years.

10 years is still a kind. The guy who created it sold it years ago for millions of dollars and today he is running medium.net
 
10 years ago was 2006 and I was probably sleeping or in school or whatever I was doing that I can't remember. I was 10 near 11 years old. Damnnn I feel really old
 
And I heard the other day it has reached its lowest valuation in years, hit with sharply declining stock prices.
Makes sense. They're not even showing tweets in chronological order anymore, sometimes conversations are broken up more than once, and it seems like people are less interested in it, at least the people I follow.
 
Makes sense. They're not even showing tweets in chronological order anymore, sometimes conversations are broken up more than once, and it seems like people are less interested in it, at least the people I follow.
Almost all social networks have moved away from the chronological posts at this point and even Instagram is now considering it last I heard. It allows them to monetize promoted content easier, I think.
 
Twitter has a lot of issues right now...
- Jack Dorsey claimed they wouldn't go to a curated selection of tweets then that's exactly what they did.
- Removing search terms from showing up.
- Hiding tweets from users (shadowbanning).
- Unverifying users with no explanation.
- Suspending users for no real reason (Adam Baldwin).
- Allowing the worst trolls to remain.
- Creation of the "trust and safety" council (run by decidedly anti-free speech groups like feminist frequency)

And they wonder why their stock price tanked? It's because the idiot in charge keeps lying to users and focusing on everything but the real issues at hand. Fact is people are sick and tired of "social justice" and being told what they can say. Especially by a group of people who repeatedly bully and press others. So they're checking out of twitter gradually. (Using the service less and less, logging on every few days rather than every day. Not posting as many tweets. Not favouriting as many. And things like that.)
 
Almost all social networks have moved away from the chronological posts at this point and even Instagram is now considering it last I heard. It allows them to monetize promoted content easier, I think.
It's a silly move, and honestly makes going through Twitter if you check once a day, like me, a pain. Don't "hide" tweets from me in the "Show More Tweets" button, because then it throws everything off. I don't start from the bottom of the chain, to work up, I start from the stop. Why would I want that?

- Creation of the "trust and safety" council (run by decidedly anti-free speech groups like feminist frequency)
(...)
Fact is people are sick and tired of "social justice" and being told what they can say.
First point, checking out the Twitter Trust and Safety Council Page, I'm not really seeing the problem here. They specifically designed to stop harassment/bullying online, and Feminist Frequency is 1 of 59 accounts part of that council. What's the big deal there?

Second, if said council was that specific brand of doom and gloom, Donald Trump's twitter would be gone right here, right now. Quick check, still there. Also, what specifically are people being banned for saying? Because most criticisms of Twitter's handling of harassment/bullying has been that they barely do anything to help those being harassed.

Third, most advertisers want a welcoming user base. Or at least they don't want it to be public knowledge that their service houses certain types of people, see Reddit and their Jailbait fiasco. So that's probably not the deciding factor in bad stock prices.
 
Of the trust and safety council's members there are too many members which have little to do with bullying or harassment. I used Feminist Frequency as a prime example because it is a non-profit organization that produces youtube videos. That's all they're registered for. They have no grounding or basis for being involved with any sort of anti-harassment work. And given the fact that Feminist Frequency's leader Anita Sarkeesian actually went to the UN to complain and try to seriously get the UN to buy that people criticizing her counted as harassment... shows that she takes an extremely broad approach to what constitutes harassment and thusly should not be in a position to make any sort of judgement calls thereof.

Hollaback is also not really about harassment. They're a company that specializes in producing viral videos. Their website claims to be about harassment, but any critical analysis of their only work on the subject (their video) just shows that there are numerous flaws in reasoning and extreme stretching in order to create their cause. (They recorded for 10+ hours and could only show like 2 minutes of video? Plus they need to be careful because their video also sends the message that black men, those who predominantly made comments, are the problem. And that is foolishness plus a touch racist really.)

I'm kind of skeptical of Women Action Media... simply because of their past work.

Sure there are a few who do legitimately belong there (GLAAD, FOSI, UK Safer Internet, AntiBullyingPro, etc...) But they also need to have voices that stand up for free speech to show that criticizing an idea or a piece of work is not harassment.


As for the people being banned, most of them have been banned because of a difference in opinion. They're conservative rather than liberal. Adam Baldwin was suspended for saying "Gamergaters are much more attractive and joyous than aGGers". That's not insulting or harassing or anything really. It's an opinion, like "I think Mark Hamill sounds cooler than Clint Eastwood", that doesn't put anyone down and is true for the speaker only.
Robert Stacy McCain also got banned but no one, outside Twitter, knows why or what policy he violated.
Thunderf00t for criticizing Sarkeesian.
Make no mistake there are more than these...

Trump's account remaining is likely purely out of financial reasons. Namely that if they did anything to it that, given Trump's popularity, many users would leave and Twitter would accelerate it's decline. (Basically he's just too large to go after because it would only end poorly for them.)

As for advertisers, partly... But they also want an active userbase too. I mean what's the point in advertising if people aren't using the platform? Users are the lifeblood of a site. No users means no advertisers. And right now users are interacting less with Twitter than before. (Due to the reasons mentioned above in my previous post. )
 
Alright, I think I see what the through-line is now. Basically, it's not friendly to GamerGate, or "causes" similar. So that, to me, comes down to one or two underlying issues.

The issue could be that words/opinions have consequences. If that's the case, maybe anonymous places would be better suited for those posts so that when someone does want to call out said posts, it's not attached to anyone. There are tons of places like that, and Twitter doesn't have to be one, and Twitter doesn't need to be strong-armed into accepting those messages.

The issue could also be an issue of audience. I mean, everyone wants their message to be heard, and building it from the ground up is difficult, so someone would obviously gravitate towards an already established audience. Again, as I said earlier, Twitter is under no obligation to be strong-armed in that way. In a very similar vein, Reddit recently(ish) got rid of a lot of hate subreddits. There was a ton of "free speech" issues brought up, but eventually those groups that were getting banned eventually moved to another platform, Voat. Problem is, Voat isn't nearly as popular, so they couldn't spread their "message" as well, so you still see those communities coming back and still having a strong presence. And it's not like they're the first place to think of doing that on Reddit! Stormfront, famous online White Nationalist community, has guidelines for converting people on Reddit to their movement.

The solution to not getting banned on Twitter is simple: Don't be hateful. The solution to Twitter being more usable is completely different, but what are ya gonna do.

Also, please pick better sources next time. Linking a YouTube video as a source screams conspiracy, Breitbart is not a good source, that reason article is generally bad (there's not an anti-censorship person on that council? Shocking.), and thunderf00t, from what I can tell, is just a twitter account retweeting bad image macros pretending to be an intellectual.
 
I'm glad that Twitter is still around because I still use it to find news stories to read, and follow my favorite actors, singers, bloggers, and YouTubers on Twitter.

I prefer Twitter more than Facebook, Instagram, Reddit and Google Plus because Twitter seems simpler to use than other sites.
 
Back
Top