What is the one song...

The fact of the matter is that none of these dubstep "artists" do anything but play previously-recorded songs when they're on stage. If you cannot perform it live when on stage, it shouldn't be considered music.
 
The fact of the matter is that none of these dubstep "artists" do anything but play previously-recorded songs when they're on stage. If you cannot perform it live when on stage, it shouldn't be considered music.

That's true; at dubstep shows (and really, EDM shows in general) the artists generally just put the mixes together ahead of time, syncing BPMs and shit. During shows they do have knobs and sliders to fuck with, of course, but that is as far as it goes, I believe.

I understand it's your opinion that you think that it isn't music if it can't be performed live, and I'm not all that surprised you would think that, but I must disagree 100%. Dubstep is quite obviously music just as much as rock or whatever is. It has the rhythm, the melody, the harmony. It's music, there's no doubt.
 
The fact of the matter is that none of these dubstep "artists" do anything but play previously-recorded songs when they're on stage. If you cannot perform it live when on stage, it shouldn't be considered music.
Mix a set. And do it right. Then we'll talk. It's harder than you think. OR produce a track. Just TRY that. You won't be able to do either. I promise. Any real DJ does perform a set live. They don't just use an iTunes playlist on shuffle, and mixing isn't easy.

It's dance music, and it's a rapidly growing industry. I didn't like it at first, but it grows on you. And haters gonna hate, but to each their own. Your country music sounds more like noise to me than anything, and I could go on about how "bad" the genre is for hours, but I can keep that to myself because I don't care that much.

 
The fact of the matter is that none of these dubstep "artists" do anything but play previously-recorded songs when they're on stage. If you cannot perform it live when on stage, it shouldn't be considered music.

So if someone used a program to make a song into a midi format it wouldn't be considered music anymore?
 
Electro House plz

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2GSyQBdeEQ[/youtube]

The fact of the matter is that none of these dubstep "artists" do anything but play previously-recorded songs when they're on stage. If you cannot perform it live when on stage, it shouldn't be considered music.
Mix a set. And do it right. Then we'll talk. It's harder than you think. OR produce a track. Just TRY that. You won't be able to do either. I promise. Any real DJ does perform a set live. They don't just use an iTunes playlist on shuffle, and mixing isn't easy.

It's dance music, and it's a rapidly growing industry. I didn't like it at first, but it grows on you. And haters gonna hate, but to each their own.

My nigga.
 
The fact of the matter is that none of these dubstep "artists" do anything but play previously-recorded songs when they're on stage. If you cannot perform it live when on stage, it shouldn't be considered music.

So if someone used a program to make a song into a midi format it wouldn't be considered music anymore?

I never said that. That's a bit different, isn't it?

As for you, Zam (too lazy to go back and multiquote), I do not listen to country. Haven't for about 2-3 years. If the DJ performs it live, then that's fine - I consider that music. However, if you cannot perform it live, I don't consider that person an artist.

Something that essentially sums up my thoughts:

http://truthaboutmusic.com/truthaboutmusic/2012/04/17/opinion-why-dubstep-sucks-and-how-it-can-be-saved/

Read it all if you're going to comment on it, guys.

I miss when lyrics used to mean something, honestly.
 
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The fact of the matter is that none of these dubstep "artists" do anything but play previously-recorded songs when they're on stage. If you cannot perform it live when on stage, it shouldn't be considered music.

So if someone used a program to make a song into a midi format it wouldn't be considered music anymore?

I never said that. That's a bit different, isn't it?

As for you, Zam (too lazy to go back and multiquote), I do not listen to country. Haven't for about 2-3 years. If the DJ performs it live, then that's fine - I consider that music. However, if you cannot perform it live, I don't consider that person an artist.

Something that essentially sums up my thoughts:

http://truthaboutmus...t-can-be-saved/

Read it all if you're going to comment on it, guys.

I miss when lyrics used to mean something, honestly.

You don't consider a person who spends hours in the studio creating sounds, recording vocals, writing melodies, and perfecting his mix an artist? What?

And live electronic dance music shows are different, by the way. People go to those shows to dance like crazy to their favorite tunes, which are played over a loud, kickass sound system that would defeat their white iPod earbuds any day. The experience is phenomenal. The DJ (in some circumstances, the artist) worked on his tracks already; why would he need to perform it live for it to be "real" music?
 
The fact of the matter is that none of these dubstep "artists" do anything but play previously-recorded songs when they're on stage. If you cannot perform it live when on stage, it shouldn't be considered music.

So if someone used a program to make a song into a midi format it wouldn't be considered music anymore?

I never said that. That's a bit different, isn't it?

As for you, Zam (too lazy to go back and multiquote), I do not listen to country. Haven't for about 2-3 years. If the DJ performs it live, then that's fine - I consider that music. However, if you cannot perform it live, I don't consider that person an artist.

Something that essentially sums up my thoughts:

http://truthaboutmus...t-can-be-saved/

Read it all if you're going to comment on it, guys.

I miss when lyrics used to mean something, honestly.

You don't consider a person who spends hours in the studio creating sounds, recording vocals, writing melodies, and perfecting his mix an artist? What?

And live electronic dance music shows are different, by the way. People go to those shows to dance like crazy to their favorite tunes, which are played over a loud, kickass sound system that would defeat their white iPod earbuds any day. The experience is phenomenal. The DJ (in some circumstances, the artist) worked on his tracks already; why would he need to perform it live for it to be "real" music?
What I THINK he meant is that some DJ's take the time to create sounds, record vocals, write melodies, and perfect his mix, AND also perform it live, instead of "Play" and "Stop".

I (sadly) am more ignorant than wsoxfan, and I personally believe dubstep is a piece of crappy noises put together to create something that's APPARATELLY music.
Again, that might be ignorant, but that's how I feel and think about dubstep, I don't just HATE it, I actually think it's not music, I don't think someone can create music if they don't know how to sing nor use a musical instrument.
 
The fact of the matter is that none of these dubstep "artists" do anything but play previously-recorded songs when they're on stage. If you cannot perform it live when on stage, it shouldn't be considered music.

So if someone used a program to make a song into a midi format it wouldn't be considered music anymore?

I never said that. That's a bit different, isn't it?

As for you, Zam (too lazy to go back and multiquote), I do not listen to country. Haven't for about 2-3 years. If the DJ performs it live, then that's fine - I consider that music. However, if you cannot perform it live, I don't consider that person an artist.

Something that essentially sums up my thoughts:

http://truthaboutmus...t-can-be-saved/

Read it all if you're going to comment on it, guys.

I miss when lyrics used to mean something, honestly.

You don't consider a person who spends hours in the studio creating sounds, recording vocals, writing melodies, and perfecting his mix an artist? What?

And live electronic dance music shows are different, by the way. People go to those shows to dance like crazy to their favorite tunes, which are played over a loud, kickass sound system that would defeat their white iPod earbuds any day. The experience is phenomenal. The DJ (in some circumstances, the artist) worked on his tracks already; why would he need to perform it live for it to be "real" music?
I (sadly) am more ignorant than wsoxfan, and I personally believe dubstep is a piece of crappy noises put together to create something that's APPARATELLY music.
Again, that might be ignorant, but that's how I feel and think about dubstep, I don't just HATE it, I actually think it's not music, I don't think someone can create music if they don't know how to sing nor use a musical instrument.

I guess there's no point in trying to reason with this logic.

Have some generic dance music that they play on SiriusXM a lot:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwJv2eQWEQs[/youtube]

Extremely catchy!
 
The fact of the matter is that none of these dubstep "artists" do anything but play previously-recorded songs when they're on stage. If you cannot perform it live when on stage, it shouldn't be considered music.

So if someone used a program to make a song into a midi format it wouldn't be considered music anymore?

I never said that. That's a bit different, isn't it?

As for you, Zam (too lazy to go back and multiquote), I do not listen to country. Haven't for about 2-3 years. If the DJ performs it live, then that's fine - I consider that music. However, if you cannot perform it live, I don't consider that person an artist.

Something that essentially sums up my thoughts:

http://truthaboutmus...t-can-be-saved/

Read it all if you're going to comment on it, guys.

I miss when lyrics used to mean something, honestly.

You don't consider a person who spends hours in the studio creating sounds, recording vocals, writing melodies, and perfecting his mix an artist? What?

And live electronic dance music shows are different, by the way. People go to those shows to dance like crazy to their favorite tunes, which are played over a loud, kickass sound system that would defeat their white iPod earbuds any day. The experience is phenomenal. The DJ (in some circumstances, the artist) worked on his tracks already; why would he need to perform it live for it to be "real" music?
I (sadly) am more ignorant than wsoxfan, and I personally believe dubstep is a piece of crappy noises put together to create something that's APPARATELLY music.
Again, that might be ignorant, but that's how I feel and think about dubstep, I don't just HATE it, I actually think it's not music, I don't think someone can create music if they don't know how to sing nor use a musical instrument.

I guess there's no point in trying to reason with this logic.

Have some generic dance music that they play on SiriusXM a lot:

[media][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwJv2eQWEQs[/media[/media]]

Extremely catchy!
The fact of the matter is that none of these dubstep "artists" do anything but play previously-recorded songs when they're on stage. If you cannot perform it live when on stage, it shouldn't be considered music.

So if someone used a program to make a song into a midi format it wouldn't be considered music anymore?

I never said that. That's a bit different, isn't it?

As for you, Zam (too lazy to go back and multiquote), I do not listen to country. Haven't for about 2-3 years. If the DJ performs it live, then that's fine - I consider that music. However, if you cannot perform it live, I don't consider that person an artist.

Something that essentially sums up my thoughts:

http://truthaboutmus...t-can-be-saved/

Read it all if you're going to comment on it, guys.

I miss when lyrics used to mean something, honestly.

You don't consider a person who spends hours in the studio creating sounds, recording vocals, writing melodies, and perfecting his mix an artist? What?

And live electronic dance music shows are different, by the way. People go to those shows to dance like crazy to their favorite tunes, which are played over a loud, kickass sound system that would defeat their white iPod earbuds any day. The experience is phenomenal. The DJ (in some circumstances, the artist) worked on his tracks already; why would he need to perform it live for it to be "real" music?
I (sadly) am more ignorant than wsoxfan, and I personally believe dubstep is a piece of crappy noises put together to create something that's APPARATELLY music.
Again, that might be ignorant, but that's how I feel and think about dubstep, I don't just HATE it, I actually think it's not music, I don't think someone can create music if they don't know how to sing nor use a musical instrument.

I guess there's no point in trying to reason with this logic.

Have some generic dance music that they play on SiriusXM a lot:

[media][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwJv2eQWEQs[/media[/media]]

Extremely catchy!
If you call that catchy @.@
 
The fact of the matter is that none of these dubstep "artists" do anything but play previously-recorded songs when they're on stage. If you cannot perform it live when on stage, it shouldn't be considered music.

So if someone used a program to make a song into a midi format it wouldn't be considered music anymore?

I never said that. That's a bit different, isn't it?

As for you, Zam (too lazy to go back and multiquote), I do not listen to country. Haven't for about 2-3 years. If the DJ performs it live, then that's fine - I consider that music. However, if you cannot perform it live, I don't consider that person an artist.

Something that essentially sums up my thoughts:

http://truthaboutmus...t-can-be-saved/

Read it all if you're going to comment on it, guys.

I miss when lyrics used to mean something, honestly.

You don't consider a person who spends hours in the studio creating sounds, recording vocals, writing melodies, and perfecting his mix an artist? What?

And live electronic dance music shows are different, by the way. People go to those shows to dance like crazy to their favorite tunes, which are played over a loud, kickass sound system that would defeat their white iPod earbuds any day. The experience is phenomenal. The DJ (in some circumstances, the artist) worked on his tracks already; why would he need to perform it live for it to be "real" music?
I (sadly) am more ignorant than wsoxfan, and I personally believe dubstep is a piece of crappy noises put together to create something that's APPARATELLY music.
Again, that might be ignorant, but that's how I feel and think about dubstep, I don't just HATE it, I actually think it's not music, I don't think someone can create music if they don't know how to sing nor use a musical instrument.

I guess there's no point in trying to reason with this logic.

Have some generic dance music that they play on SiriusXM a lot:

[media][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwJv2eQWEQs[/media[/media]]

Extremely catchy!
The fact of the matter is that none of these dubstep "artists" do anything but play previously-recorded songs when they're on stage. If you cannot perform it live when on stage, it shouldn't be considered music.

So if someone used a program to make a song into a midi format it wouldn't be considered music anymore?

I never said that. That's a bit different, isn't it?

As for you, Zam (too lazy to go back and multiquote), I do not listen to country. Haven't for about 2-3 years. If the DJ performs it live, then that's fine - I consider that music. However, if you cannot perform it live, I don't consider that person an artist.

Something that essentially sums up my thoughts:

http://truthaboutmus...t-can-be-saved/

Read it all if you're going to comment on it, guys.

I miss when lyrics used to mean something, honestly.

You don't consider a person who spends hours in the studio creating sounds, recording vocals, writing melodies, and perfecting his mix an artist? What?

And live electronic dance music shows are different, by the way. People go to those shows to dance like crazy to their favorite tunes, which are played over a loud, kickass sound system that would defeat their white iPod earbuds any day. The experience is phenomenal. The DJ (in some circumstances, the artist) worked on his tracks already; why would he need to perform it live for it to be "real" music?
I (sadly) am more ignorant than wsoxfan, and I personally believe dubstep is a piece of crappy noises put together to create something that's APPARATELLY music.
Again, that might be ignorant, but that's how I feel and think about dubstep, I don't just HATE it, I actually think it's not music, I don't think someone can create music if they don't know how to sing nor use a musical instrument.

I guess there's no point in trying to reason with this logic.

Have some generic dance music that they play on SiriusXM a lot:

[media][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwJv2eQWEQs[/media[/media]]

Extremely catchy!
If you call that catchy @.@

I think it is. But you're free to think otherwise.
 
Nice one. I notice that most dubstep remixes have the same pattern: intro with a melody of the song (vocals often included), then a buildup to the drop (which tends to be an increase in pitch and kick/snares becoming more rapid), the drop, some wobble bass, a return to the melody and/or vocals, then a buildup, then a drop, more wub, then it either ends there or goes back to the melody and/or vocals and then ends.

Not that I care that much. Although they are slightly less enjoyable to listen to since they really are mostly the same. Something with a chiptune quality, and not very heavy:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROc0z6oco4g[/youtube]
 
The fact of the matter is that none of these dubstep "artists" do anything but play previously-recorded songs when they're on stage. If you cannot perform it live when on stage, it shouldn't be considered music.

So if someone used a program to make a song into a midi format it wouldn't be considered music anymore?

I never said that. That's a bit different, isn't it?

As for you, Zam (too lazy to go back and multiquote), I do not listen to country. Haven't for about 2-3 years. If the DJ performs it live, then that's fine - I consider that music. However, if you cannot perform it live, I don't consider that person an artist.

Something that essentially sums up my thoughts:

http://truthaboutmus...t-can-be-saved/

Read it all if you're going to comment on it, guys.

I miss when lyrics used to mean something, honestly.

You don't consider a person who spends hours in the studio creating sounds, recording vocals, writing melodies, and perfecting his mix an artist? What?

And live electronic dance music shows are different, by the way. People go to those shows to dance like crazy to their favorite tunes, which are played over a loud, kickass sound system that would defeat their white iPod earbuds any day. The experience is phenomenal. The DJ (in some circumstances, the artist) worked on his tracks already; why would he need to perform it live for it to be "real" music?
I (sadly) am more ignorant than wsoxfan, and I personally believe dubstep is a piece of crappy noises put together to create something that's APPARATELLY music.
Again, that might be ignorant, but that's how I feel and think about dubstep, I don't just HATE it, I actually think it's not music, I don't think someone can create music if they don't know how to sing nor use a musical instrument.

I guess there's no point in trying to reason with this logic.

Have some generic dance music that they play on SiriusXM a lot:

[media][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwJv2eQWEQs[/media[/media]]

Extremely catchy!
The fact of the matter is that none of these dubstep "artists" do anything but play previously-recorded songs when they're on stage. If you cannot perform it live when on stage, it shouldn't be considered music.

So if someone used a program to make a song into a midi format it wouldn't be considered music anymore?

I never said that. That's a bit different, isn't it?

As for you, Zam (too lazy to go back and multiquote), I do not listen to country. Haven't for about 2-3 years. If the DJ performs it live, then that's fine - I consider that music. However, if you cannot perform it live, I don't consider that person an artist.

Something that essentially sums up my thoughts:

http://truthaboutmus...t-can-be-saved/

Read it all if you're going to comment on it, guys.

I miss when lyrics used to mean something, honestly.

You don't consider a person who spends hours in the studio creating sounds, recording vocals, writing melodies, and perfecting his mix an artist? What?

And live electronic dance music shows are different, by the way. People go to those shows to dance like crazy to their favorite tunes, which are played over a loud, kickass sound system that would defeat their white iPod earbuds any day. The experience is phenomenal. The DJ (in some circumstances, the artist) worked on his tracks already; why would he need to perform it live for it to be "real" music?
I (sadly) am more ignorant than wsoxfan, and I personally believe dubstep is a piece of crappy noises put together to create something that's APPARATELLY music.
Again, that might be ignorant, but that's how I feel and think about dubstep, I don't just HATE it, I actually think it's not music, I don't think someone can create music if they don't know how to sing nor use a musical instrument.

I guess there's no point in trying to reason with this logic.

Have some generic dance music that they play on SiriusXM a lot:

[media][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwJv2eQWEQs[/media[/media]]

Extremely catchy!
If you call that catchy @.@

I think it is. But you're free to think otherwise.
The fact of the matter is that none of these dubstep "artists" do anything but play previously-recorded songs when they're on stage. If you cannot perform it live when on stage, it shouldn't be considered music.

So if someone used a program to make a song into a midi format it wouldn't be considered music anymore?

I never said that. That's a bit different, isn't it?

As for you, Zam (too lazy to go back and multiquote), I do not listen to country. Haven't for about 2-3 years. If the DJ performs it live, then that's fine - I consider that music. However, if you cannot perform it live, I don't consider that person an artist.

Something that essentially sums up my thoughts:

http://truthaboutmus...t-can-be-saved/

Read it all if you're going to comment on it, guys.

I miss when lyrics used to mean something, honestly.

You don't consider a person who spends hours in the studio creating sounds, recording vocals, writing melodies, and perfecting his mix an artist? What?

And live electronic dance music shows are different, by the way. People go to those shows to dance like crazy to their favorite tunes, which are played over a loud, kickass sound system that would defeat their white iPod earbuds any day. The experience is phenomenal. The DJ (in some circumstances, the artist) worked on his tracks already; why would he need to perform it live for it to be "real" music?
I (sadly) am more ignorant than wsoxfan, and I personally believe dubstep is a piece of crappy noises put together to create something that's APPARATELLY music.
Again, that might be ignorant, but that's how I feel and think about dubstep, I don't just HATE it, I actually think it's not music, I don't think someone can create music if they don't know how to sing nor use a musical instrument.

I guess there's no point in trying to reason with this logic.

Have some generic dance music that they play on SiriusXM a lot:

[media][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwJv2eQWEQs[/media[/media]]

Extremely catchy!
The fact of the matter is that none of these dubstep "artists" do anything but play previously-recorded songs when they're on stage. If you cannot perform it live when on stage, it shouldn't be considered music.

So if someone used a program to make a song into a midi format it wouldn't be considered music anymore?

I never said that. That's a bit different, isn't it?

As for you, Zam (too lazy to go back and multiquote), I do not listen to country. Haven't for about 2-3 years. If the DJ performs it live, then that's fine - I consider that music. However, if you cannot perform it live, I don't consider that person an artist.

Something that essentially sums up my thoughts:

http://truthaboutmus...t-can-be-saved/

Read it all if you're going to comment on it, guys.

I miss when lyrics used to mean something, honestly.

You don't consider a person who spends hours in the studio creating sounds, recording vocals, writing melodies, and perfecting his mix an artist? What?

And live electronic dance music shows are different, by the way. People go to those shows to dance like crazy to their favorite tunes, which are played over a loud, kickass sound system that would defeat their white iPod earbuds any day. The experience is phenomenal. The DJ (in some circumstances, the artist) worked on his tracks already; why would he need to perform it live for it to be "real" music?
I (sadly) am more ignorant than wsoxfan, and I personally believe dubstep is a piece of crappy noises put together to create something that's APPARATELLY music.
Again, that might be ignorant, but that's how I feel and think about dubstep, I don't just HATE it, I actually think it's not music, I don't think someone can create music if they don't know how to sing nor use a musical instrument.

I guess there's no point in trying to reason with this logic.

Have some generic dance music that they play on SiriusXM a lot:

[media][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwJv2eQWEQs[/media[/media]]

Extremely catchy!
If you call that catchy @.@

I think it is. But you're free to think otherwise.
How can something be catchy, if it has no lyrics or actual chorus?
How can you actually "sing" that when on the bus or walking somewhere?
If it doesn't have lyrics and no instrument is played in it, how can it be music? <-- ANSWER!
 
Lol, you dumbo. Lyrics come in at around one minute in. And also, a synthesizer is an instrument, and if you SERIOUSLY think a song has to have lyrics in it to be actual "music", then I hate you very much right now.
 
Lol, you dumbo. Lyrics come in at around one minute in. And also, a synthesizer is an instrument, and if you SERIOUSLY think a song has to have lyrics in it to be actual "music", then I hate you very much right now.
I wont continue arguing about this obsolete topic.
Dubstep is not real music, whether you like that collection of sounds is a different thing, but it.is.not.music, and if you think otherwise, then I hate you very much right now.
 
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Lol, you dumbo. Lyrics come in at around one minute in. And also, a synthesizer is an instrument, and if you SERIOUSLY think a song has to have lyrics in it to be actual "music", then I hate you very much right now.
I wont continue arguing about this obsolete topic.
Dubstep is not real music, whether you like that collection of sounds is a different thing, but it.is.not.music, and if you think otherwise, then I hate you very much right now.

You won't continue arguing? Okay. Dubstep is music! Hooray!

I heard this last night, thought it was flippin' sick:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2BVGb92Oy4[/youtube]
 
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