Your thoughts?

The link is right here.

http://www.livescience.com/21275-color-red-blue-scientists.html

To be clear, I do not want to take part in this conversation. Just sharing information.


Thank you.

Yeah, that is why i have been arguing this point in a realistic scientific standing the entire time. It IS a "thing" lol It would also work as I said it would and people with donor eyes and one original eye would be noticing this. The thread, I THOUGHT, was supposed to be about "what if" things that were philosophical, not scientific. realistic possibilities. Like "what if we ARE the only ones in the universe". This color thing is something that can exist but it would be a genetic feature any way that you look at it.

You'd be better off sticking to Lewis Caroll's Through the Looking Glass kind of a viewpoint if you want anything with a "what if" vibe that cannot be proven for people seeing opposites.
 
...what really makes me wonder about re-incarnation and stuff like that is when I was really young i had a dream several times over a few years. always with me in a classroom of the same kids. Eventually I made it to Junior High in real life and lo and behold; in a class of those same kids from my dream. It is something I well on and wonder about. I can't chalk that up to coincidence and I wonder if / why it is so significant that I had the dream over 3 times several years before meeting them all.



That reminds me of something that happens to me a lot. Déjà vu.... kind of. I often have what people describe as déjà vu or 'the feeling that you've done something/been someplace before'. But for me, instead of being a vague, [SIZE=12.727272033691406px]ambiguous feeling, I'll immediately remember the exact same, specific incident that's occurring from a dream I previously had. This has happened for dreams from months back. [/SIZE] It's feels like my dreams caught some brief glimpse of the future- makes you feel pretty weird afterward. 0.o;

Sorry, don't mean to butt into the conversation, just made me think of that!
 
...what really makes me wonder about re-incarnation and stuff like that is when I was really young i had a dream several times over a few years. always with me in a classroom of the same kids. Eventually I made it to Junior High in real life and lo and behold; in a class of those same kids from my dream. It is something I well on and wonder about. I can't chalk that up to coincidence and I wonder if / why it is so significant that I had the dream over 3 times several years before meeting them all.



That reminds me of something that happens to me a lot. Déjà vu.... kind of. I often have what people describe as déjà vu or 'the feeling that you've done something/been someplace before'. But for me, instead of being a vague, [SIZE=12.727272033691406px]ambiguous feeling, I'll immediately remember the exact same, specific incident that's occurring from a dream I previously had. This has happened for dreams from months back. [/SIZE] It's feels like my dreams caught some brief glimpse of the future- makes you feel pretty weird afterward. 0.o;

Sorry, don't mean to butt into the conversation, just made me think of that!



I get that as well too, and i even see the next steps sometimes. Like what will happen if I take a certain path. It has placed me into panic attacks a multitude of times, to be honest. :/
 
Deja vu is pretty cool but creepy at the same time. For me I'll have these scary dreams, like my brakes going out and steering wheel locking up, and I just won't drive for fear of that happening.
 
...what really makes me wonder about re-incarnation and stuff like that is when I was really young i had a dream several times over a few years. always with me in a classroom of the same kids. Eventually I made it to Junior High in real life and lo and behold; in a class of those same kids from my dream. It is something I well on and wonder about. I can't chalk that up to coincidence and I wonder if / why it is so significant that I had the dream over 3 times several years before meeting them all.



That reminds me of something that happens to me a lot. Déjà vu.... kind of. I often have what people describe as déjà vu or 'the feeling that you've done something/been someplace before'. But for me, instead of being a vague, [SIZE=12.727272033691406px]ambiguous feeling, I'll immediately remember the exact same, specific incident that's occurring from a dream I previously had. This has happened for dreams from months back. [/SIZE] It's feels like my dreams caught some brief glimpse of the future- makes you feel pretty weird afterward. 0.o;

Sorry, don't mean to butt into the conversation, just made me think of that!




Same thing has happened to me before. Sometimes it won't be a dream, but a thought I had in the past. It really is a strange occurrence. Or like when you'll think "Wow haven't watched [show] in years." and you walk inside and someone turns it on TV soon after.
 
The link is right here.

http://www.livescience.com/21275-color-red-blue-scientists.html

To be clear, I do not want to take part in this conversation. Just sharing information.


Thank you.

Yeah, that is why i have been arguing this point in a realistic scientific standing the entire time. It IS a "thing" lol It would also work as I said it would and people with donor eyes and one original eye would be noticing this. The thread, I THOUGHT, was supposed to be about "what if" things that were philosophical, not scientific. realistic possibilities. Like "what if we ARE the only ones in the universe". This color thing is something that can exist but it would be a genetic feature any way that you look at it.

You'd be better off sticking to Lewis Caroll's Through the Looking Glass kind of a viewpoint if you want anything with a "what if" vibe that cannot be proven for people seeing opposites.



From the article:

The result shows there are no predetermined perceptions ascribed to each wavelength, said Carroll, who was not involved in the research. "The ability to discriminate certain wavelengths arose out of the blue, so to speak — with the simple introduction of a new gene. Thus, the [brain] circuitry there simply takes in whatever information it has and then confers some sort of perception."

When we're born, our brains most likely do the same thing, the scientists said. Our neurons aren't configured to respond to color in a default way; instead, we each develop a unique perception of color. "Color is a private sensation," Carroll said.

The article is pretty clear about it. This question has long been a philosophical one, but now it is being pushed into the realm of science, although there is still no clear determining factor. Using a donor eye has nothing to do with it. The eye is just a receptor of the wavelength. It sends the message to the brain and then the brain perceives the color.
 
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The link is right here.

http://www.livescience.com/21275-color-red-blue-scientists.html

To be clear, I do not want to take part in this conversation. Just sharing information.


Thank you.

Yeah, that is why i have been arguing this point in a realistic scientific standing the entire time. It IS a "thing" lol It would also work as I said it would and people with donor eyes and one original eye would be noticing this. The thread, I THOUGHT, was supposed to be about "what if" things that were philosophical, not scientific. realistic possibilities. Like "what if we ARE the only ones in the universe". This color thing is something that can exist but it would be a genetic feature any way that you look at it.

You'd be better off sticking to Lewis Caroll's Through the Looking Glass kind of a viewpoint if you want anything with a "what if" vibe that cannot be proven for people seeing opposites.



From the article:

The result shows there are no predetermined perceptions ascribed to each wavelength, said Carroll, who was not involved in the research. "The ability to discriminate certain wavelengths arose out of the blue, so to speak — with the simple introduction of a new gene. Thus, the [brain] circuitry there simply takes in whatever information it has and then confers some sort of perception."

When we're born, our brains most likely do the same thing, the scientists said. Our neurons aren't configured to respond to color in a default way; instead, we each develop a unique perception of color. "Color is a private sensation," Carroll said.

The article is pretty clear about it. This question has long been a philosophical one, but now it is being pushed into the realm of science, although there is still no clear determining factor. Using a donor eye has nothing to do with it. The eye is just a receptor of the wavelength. It sends the message to the brain and then the brain perceives the color.



Read that article again. It talks about how it is all focused on the cone cell in the eye and not the brain at all - which would verify my point on the donor eye thing. and seriously... i'm not going to reply in this thread anymore, you can PM me if you want - we are WAY off topic, and to be honest i've lost interest in this convo. I couldn't care less about the whole color thing, i was just trying to point out the facts underlined in that article.
 
...rereading it again I can see where your confusion comes from. They mention red/green/blue cones in your eye. All these cones specialize in is picking up the wavelength we attribute red, green and blue to. If you reread it again, you'll notice the entire article says nothing to contradict the idea that we could all be seeing different colors. I think you need to take a more philosophical look at the question.

Also about the donor eye... it is not the eye that perceives the color. The cones in the eye that pick up certain wave lengths send a message to the brain saying "hey, I'm seeing (x) intensity of (x) wavelength". The brain then perceives the color. The philosophical question is do we all perceive colors the same way, or are our color wheels off from each other?

Also this topic, according to the first post, is for discussing our thoughts on a couple of the questions he posed. Is it really WAY off topic to debate over our thoughts on one of the questions he posed?

I know you probably won't respond to this, but I posted it here anyways to clear up any confusion on what the article says.
 
I really don't understand how this is "WAY off topic."

It is a thread made for debating any kind of questions like the ones I posted.
 
Whoa, you guys think alot. With the colour though, Vincerific said about the eye transplants. What if you get an eye that belonged to a colourblind person implanted. Do you see from that eye differently to what you experienced before, or do you see the same, as if it's the brain that sees the colour and not the eye.

If i saw blue differently to others maybe if its green , it would still be named blue, regardless if its different to others sight

I am in the miidle, sure Thexx's hypothesis could be true, but Vincerific make a bit more sense.
 
Whoa, you guys think alot. With the colour though, Vincerific said about the eye transplants. What if you get an eye that belonged to a colourblind person implanted. Do you see from that eye differently to what you experienced before, or do you see the same, as if it's the brain that sees the colour and not the eye.

If i saw blue differently to others maybe if its green , it would still be named blue, regardless if its different to others sight

I am in the miidle, sure Thexx's hypothesis could be true, but Vincerific make a bit more sense.


http://www.livescience.com/21275-color-red-blue-scientists.html

Give this article a read. It talks about how we perceive color. Our eyes just pick up the lightwaves and our brain perceives it. Color blindness happens when one of the cones in your eyes either doesn't exist or does not work properly, thus giving the brain not enough information to perceive the color properly.
 
Forgot exactly how i was going to say this after reading this whole article. Color is a perception of light with out light there is no color, now picture this the colors we see is a reflection of light from our sun (a yellow star). How we see these colors with our eyes is how the brain perceives them. Now imagine this it's from evolution how we interpret colors(light reflection), and being the species we are we label everything. Now what happens when a mutation o cures(evolution) does one interpret colors differently or pick or the wave length of colors different. Life is life it's not suppose to make sense everyone experiences time, taste, interests, sounds, and so on differently.

Examples (time) what seems slow for someone may seem fast to someone else (taste) what seems sweet me may be bitter you (sound) what i enjoy for music you might find irritable.

So why is it hard to believe we might interpret colors differently.

If we were to go to a planet with a blue star our perspective of color would mean nothing we would have to relearn each color an label it something else this would be the same case for a white, orange, red, and every other colors of stars out there, but we might seems the stars differently to begin with.

Our sun is a good example if you ask me i say our son looks yellow if i ask you, you might say orange or red. The human body is a complex organism (just like life is complex)we like to pretend we know how it works like we do everything somethings we might be right about while others we are off a bit, a lot, or its just mind boggling.

A side note i don't mean to offend anyone or there beliefs i have my own an accept everyones, thats the way the creator of life an all we know would want it.

Also deja vu is a funny thing i have it quit a bit ill dream something then it'll come true hard to tell what it is.

Examples had a dream my friend was -200 dollars in there bank account, an spent the day at the bank the next day they call me an told me there electric bill charged them twice and didn't credit the charges they spent the day at the bank fixing the problem.

Or i will go to see a movie with my fiance and get deja vu moments bout whats going on an guess the entire movie plot before it happens.

When i spend time with my friends i get it a lot one friend was play minecraft an called me t ask for help about finding abandoned mineshaft(had just dreamed bout finding one the night before) went over an found one within 15 minutes just like my dream.

There's a lot of other moments but i cant recall them atm nether less deja vu is strange or foresight as some call it
 
Noticed a mistake in my post meant the wave lengths of light, not the wave lengths of color.


Now looking over it there's a couple mistakes please ignore them early morning for the brain an writing a scientific view.


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Please use the edit option that appears at the bottom right-ish corner of your posts to add in corrections rather than triple posting, please. I merged your last two posts. No biggie though, you're not in trouble or anything just keep in mind that there is an edit button.
 
Thanks benoit... when i actually posted, i had no idea about the 2 pages so i missed out on the rest of the conversation, and i don't know how to delete comments if you can
 
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