3DS vs. PS Vita, Because the last one failed.

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Since I went too far with the insults here, I'm going to try one last time, to make this a REAL comparsion with sources, so that we can discuss the pros and cons of each handheld.



Dimensions:
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(3DS is slightly more portable)​
Display:
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Proccesor:
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Graphics:
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Storage:
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Wireless:
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Battery:
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Cameras:
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And now, the aspect we're discussing in this thread:
Backward Compatibility:
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Note: Images taken from Geek.com​


Backward Compatibility for me, means that a handheld can play games from the previous generation handheld, in the same way the previous handheld did.​
The PS Vita does not go over that, the 3DS does.​
Each game has it's own unique game library, but if the Vita doesn't start selling soon, we all know the developers wont produce games for it, while the 3DS has plenty of games coming to it soon.​

Of course, it's all opinions.​
 
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No fucking games? Ha! HAAAAAA! There have been sixty-seven games released for the platform since its release. Hell, did you NOT claim that the 3DS was full of shovelware?
 
No fucking games? Ha! HAAAAAA! There have been sixty-seven games released for the platform since its release. Hell, did you NOT claim that the 3DS was full of shovelware?
Sixty Seven games released, and yet, only Uncharted and Gravity seem worthwhile.
While on the 3DS, tons of game have been released, and 3D Land, NSMB2, KI:U, OOT 3D, KH:DDD and tons more are awesome.
 
No fucking games? Ha! HAAAAAA! There have been sixty-seven games released for the platform since its release. Hell, did you NOT claim that the 3DS was full of shovelware?
Sixty Seven games released, and yet, only Uncharted and Gravity seem worthwhile.
While on the 3DS, tons of game have been released, and 3D Land, NSMB2, KI:U, OOT 3D, KH:DDD and tons more are awesome.

BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend, Disgaea 3: Absence of Detention, Dynasty Warriors Next, Escape Plan, Lumines: Electronic Symphony, Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, ModNation Racers: Road Trip, Mortal Kombat, Sound Shapes, StarDrone Extreme, Super Stardust Delta, Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3, WipEout 2048, Uncharted: Golden Abyss, Rayman Origins (certainly a superior port to the 3DS version)...
 
No fucking games? Ha! HAAAAAA! There have been sixty-seven games released for the platform since its release. Hell, did you NOT claim that the 3DS was full of shovelware?
Sixty Seven games released, and yet, only Uncharted and Gravity seem worthwhile.
While on the 3DS, tons of game have been released, and 3D Land, NSMB2, KI:U, OOT 3D, KH:DDD and tons more are awesome.

BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend, Disgaea 3: Absence of Detention, Dynasty Warriors Next, Escape Plan, Lumines: Electronic Symphony, Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, ModNation Racers: Road Trip, Mortal Kombat, Sound Shapes, StarDrone Extreme, Super Stardust Delta, Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3, WipEout 2048, Uncharted: Golden Abyss, Rayman Origins (certainly a superior port to the 3DS version)...
I thought BlazBlue sucked?
Well anyways, remember that the 3DS is backwards compatible, unlike the PS Shita.

So we're talking about 3DS games:
Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros 2, Kid Icarus: Uprising, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D, Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance, Resident Evil: Revelations, Tales of The Abyss, The Rythm Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid 3D Snake Eater, Mario Kart 7, Cave Story 3D, Star Fox 64 3D, Rhythm Thief And The Emperor's Treasure, etc..

DS games:
The World Ends With You, Final Fantasy (All of em'), Pokemon (All of em'), Super Scribblenauts, Etrian Odyssey (All of em'), Kingdom Hearts (Both of em'), Rhythm Heaven, Castlevania (All of em'), Kirby: Mass Attack, Dragon Quest: Sentinels of The Starry Sky, Picross, 999, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks, Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, Proff. Layton (All of em'), etc..

Plus some great eShop games like Pushmo and Mutant Mudds.

And Upcoming games like Fire Emblem: Awakening and Etrian Odyssey IV.
 
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Actually, the PS Vita can play PSP games. You gotta buy them again, but still. I think it also has some PS1 games.
 
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Not the point. You just said it was nonexistant period.
It IS non-existant, It has no UMD to play PSP games.


I owned a PSP, I have PSP games, I wanna play them on my Vita, can I do so? NO. KTHXBYE.
I owned a DS , I have DS games, I wanna play them on my 3DS, can I do so? YES. BACKWARD COMPATIBLE.

I can buy GBA games from the eShop, does that mean the 3DS can play GBA games? NO.
 
No fucking games? Ha! HAAAAAA! There have been sixty-seven games released for the platform since its release. Hell, did you NOT claim that the 3DS was full of shovelware?
Sixty Seven games released, and yet, only Uncharted and Gravity seem worthwhile.
While on the 3DS, tons of game have been released, and 3D Land, NSMB2, KI:U, OOT 3D, KH:DDD and tons more are awesome.

BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend, Disgaea 3: Absence of Detention, Dynasty Warriors Next, Escape Plan, Lumines: Electronic Symphony, Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, ModNation Racers: Road Trip, Mortal Kombat, Sound Shapes, StarDrone Extreme, Super Stardust Delta, Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3, WipEout 2048, Uncharted: Golden Abyss, Rayman Origins (certainly a superior port to the 3DS version)...
I thought BlazBlue sucked?
Well anyways, remember that the 3DS is backwards compatible, unlike the PS Shita.

So we're talking about 3DS games:
Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros 2, Kid Icarus: Uprising, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D, Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance, Resident Evil: Revelations, Tales of The Abyss, The Rythm Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid 3D Snake Eater, Mario Kart 7, Cave Story 3D, Star Fox 64 3D, Rhythm Thief And The Emperor's Treasure, etc..

DS games:
The World Ends With You, Final Fantasy (All of em'), Pokemon (All of em'), Super Scribblenauts, Etrian Odyssey (All of em'), Kingdom Hearts (Both of em'), Rhythm Heaven, Castlevania (All of em'), Kirby: Mass Attack, Dragon Quest: Sentinels of The Starry Sky, Picross, 999, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks, Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, Proff. Layton (All of em'), etc..

Plus some great eShop games like Pushmo and Mutant Mudds.

And Upcoming games like Fire Emblem: Awakening and Etrian Odyssey IV.

Stop it with the annoying mock names. And no, BlazBlue didn't suck. Not sure where you got that idea.

Basically, I listed some good Vita games, and you listed some good 3DS games. You know what we accomplished today? We established that both platforms clearly have good games. And so then your original claim that the Vita didn't have games has been debunked. And put that together with the superior hardware of the Vita, and... yeah.


Actually, the PS Vita can play PSP games. You gotta buy them again, but still. I think it also has some PS1 games.

If you already bought the digital versions, then they are stored on your account. So you can re-download them for free.


Not the point. You just said it was nonexistant period.
It IS non-existant, It has no UMD to play PSP games.


I owned a PSP, I have PSP games, I wanna play them on my Vita, can I do so? NO. KTHXBYE.
I owned a DS , I have DS games, I wanna play them on my 3DS, can I do so? YES. BACKWARD COMPATIBLE.

I can buy GBA games from the eShop, does that mean the 3DS can play GBA games? NO.

Oh FUCK, you're retarded.
 
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No fucking games? Ha! HAAAAAA! There have been sixty-seven games released for the platform since its release. Hell, did you NOT claim that the 3DS was full of shovelware?
Sixty Seven games released, and yet, only Uncharted and Gravity seem worthwhile.
While on the 3DS, tons of game have been released, and 3D Land, NSMB2, KI:U, OOT 3D, KH:DDD and tons more are awesome.

BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend, Disgaea 3: Absence of Detention, Dynasty Warriors Next, Escape Plan, Lumines: Electronic Symphony, Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, ModNation Racers: Road Trip, Mortal Kombat, Sound Shapes, StarDrone Extreme, Super Stardust Delta, Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3, WipEout 2048, Uncharted: Golden Abyss, Rayman Origins (certainly a superior port to the 3DS version)...
I thought BlazBlue sucked?
Well anyways, remember that the 3DS is backwards compatible, unlike the PS Shita.

So we're talking about 3DS games:
Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros 2, Kid Icarus: Uprising, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D, Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance, Resident Evil: Revelations, Tales of The Abyss, The Rythm Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid 3D Snake Eater, Mario Kart 7, Cave Story 3D, Star Fox 64 3D, Rhythm Thief And The Emperor's Treasure, etc..

DS games:
The World Ends With You, Final Fantasy (All of em'), Pokemon (All of em'), Super Scribblenauts, Etrian Odyssey (All of em'), Kingdom Hearts (Both of em'), Rhythm Heaven, Castlevania (All of em'), Kirby: Mass Attack, Dragon Quest: Sentinels of The Starry Sky, Picross, 999, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks, Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, Proff. Layton (All of em'), etc..

Plus some great eShop games like Pushmo and Mutant Mudds.

And Upcoming games like Fire Emblem: Awakening and Etrian Odyssey IV.

Stop it with the annoying mock names. And no, BlazBlue didn't suck. Not sure where you got that idea.

Basically, I listed some good Vita games, and you listed some good 3DS games. You know what we accomplished today? We established that both platforms clearly have good games. And so then your original claim that the Vita didn't have games has been debunked. And put that together with the superior hardware of the Vita, and... yeah.

- I think you forgot I listed more games than you did, and you listed some "Okay" games too.


Actually, the PS Vita can play PSP games. You gotta buy them again, but still. I think it also has some PS1 games.

If you already bought the digital versions, then they are stored on your account. So you can re-download them for free.
What if I didn't? What if I like buying retail games like 80% of the people do? Sony just said "Screw you, buy both a Vita and PSP or start rolling the cash".


Not the point. You just said it was nonexistant period.
It IS non-existant, It has no UMD to play PSP games.


I owned a PSP, I have PSP games, I wanna play them on my Vita, can I do so? NO. KTHXBYE.
I owned a DS , I have DS games, I wanna play them on my 3DS, can I do so? YES. BACKWARD COMPATIBLE.

I can buy GBA games from the eShop, does that mean the 3DS can play GBA games? NO.

Oh FUCK, you're retarded.

-I bring a good point to discuss against the Vita, and you have nothing to counter it, so your reaction is insulting me.
Ok, got it.
 
No fucking games? Ha! HAAAAAA! There have been sixty-seven games released for the platform since its release. Hell, did you NOT claim that the 3DS was full of shovelware?
Sixty Seven games released, and yet, only Uncharted and Gravity seem worthwhile.
While on the 3DS, tons of game have been released, and 3D Land, NSMB2, KI:U, OOT 3D, KH:DDD and tons more are awesome.

BlazBlue: Continuum Shift Extend, Disgaea 3: Absence of Detention, Dynasty Warriors Next, Escape Plan, Lumines: Electronic Symphony, Metal Gear Solid HD Collection, ModNation Racers: Road Trip, Mortal Kombat, Sound Shapes, StarDrone Extreme, Super Stardust Delta, Ultimate Marvel Vs. Capcom 3, WipEout 2048, Uncharted: Golden Abyss, Rayman Origins (certainly a superior port to the 3DS version)...
I thought BlazBlue sucked?
Well anyways, remember that the 3DS is backwards compatible, unlike the PS Shita.

So we're talking about 3DS games:
Super Mario 3D Land, New Super Mario Bros 2, Kid Icarus: Uprising, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D, Kingdom Hearts: Dream Drop Distance, Resident Evil: Revelations, Tales of The Abyss, The Rythm Final Fantasy, Metal Gear Solid 3D Snake Eater, Mario Kart 7, Cave Story 3D, Star Fox 64 3D, Rhythm Thief And The Emperor's Treasure, etc..

DS games:
The World Ends With You, Final Fantasy (All of em'), Pokemon (All of em'), Super Scribblenauts, Etrian Odyssey (All of em'), Kingdom Hearts (Both of em'), Rhythm Heaven, Castlevania (All of em'), Kirby: Mass Attack, Dragon Quest: Sentinels of The Starry Sky, Picross, 999, Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney, The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks, Fire Emblem, Advance Wars, Proff. Layton (All of em'), etc..

Plus some great eShop games like Pushmo and Mutant Mudds.

And Upcoming games like Fire Emblem: Awakening and Etrian Odyssey IV.

Stop it with the annoying mock names. And no, BlazBlue didn't suck. Not sure where you got that idea.

Basically, I listed some good Vita games, and you listed some good 3DS games. You know what we accomplished today? We established that both platforms clearly have good games. And so then your original claim that the Vita didn't have games has been debunked. And put that together with the superior hardware of the Vita, and... yeah.

- I think you forgot I listed more games than you did, and you listed some "Okay" games too.


Actually, the PS Vita can play PSP games. You gotta buy them again, but still. I think it also has some PS1 games.

If you already bought the digital versions, then they are stored on your account. So you can re-download them for free.
What if I didn't? What if I like buying retail games like 80% of the people do? Sony just said "Screw you, buy both a Vita and PSP or start rolling the cash".


Not the point. You just said it was nonexistant period.
It IS non-existant, It has no UMD to play PSP games.


I owned a PSP, I have PSP games, I wanna play them on my Vita, can I do so? NO. KTHXBYE.
I owned a DS , I have DS games, I wanna play them on my 3DS, can I do so? YES. BACKWARD COMPATIBLE.

I can buy GBA games from the eShop, does that mean the 3DS can play GBA games? NO.

Oh FUCK, you're retarded.

-I bring a good point to discuss against the Vita, and you have nothing to counter it, so your reaction is insulting me.
Ok, got it.

1. Whether a game is "okay" or "good" or "bat-shit ass-backwards terrible" is subjective. The games I listed and the games you listed all got good reviews.
2. You DIDN'T buy digital copies? I hope you enjoyed your annoying UMD drive, overheating, and carrying around a bunch of little disks. But seriously, this is a pretty fair point (to my surprise). However, your original claim was that it wasn't backwards-compatible at all. Now you're just grabbing at shit.
3. Sorry, sorry, I was just literally so amazed at the stupidity of that last line. The 3DS clearly CAN play GBA games, if you're able to access a copy and PLAY it on your 3DS.
 
1. Oh, I'm sorry, I got confused with the reviews, you're right on this one.
2.I'm sorry, but you don't have a valid point, retail is the main distribution source, and plenty of people like having the box with the disk instead of downloading it.
3. I'll invite you on this amazing journey to seek the answer to the human questions:


1. http://bit.ly/OjyRA9
2. https://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=Can+the+3DS+play+GBA+games%3F
3. http://www.gameshampoo.com/1918/can-a-nintendo-3ds-play-gba-games
4. *Scrolls down*
5. "Unfortunately No."

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_the_Nintendo_3DS_play_Game_Boy_Advance_games <-- No.

I can get a FEW SELECTIVE GBA games, but I have to BUY THEM AGAIN, and NOT ALL THE FUCKING GAMES ARE THERE.
Same thing applies to the Vita, I don't see BBS in the shop, even if 1 game is missing from the shop, IT'S NOT FUCKING FULLY BACKWARD COMPATIBLE.
 
Okay. So then the 3DS must not be fully backwards compatible either, lol. You can't play the games that required the GBA slot.

Well, let's try to knock a bit of sense into this argument. We are talking about backward compatibilty at the moment.
In this argument there are two points to be made.

1. online games in e-stores
2. Hardware games such as UMD's and cards for the DS.

Let's start with the 3DS.
Nintendo released a page with full information about backwards compatibilty.
http://www.nintendo.co.uk/NOE/en_GB/systems/backwards_compatible_32441.html

As we can clearly see here, the 3DS is fully backwards compatible with older games from older Nintendo DS devices. So yes, from a hardware standpoint, the 3DS is backwards compatible untill you reach the GBA games. When you reach those, you are out of luck. GBA games (and older games wil not run.

The first DS came out on 21 of november 2004 according to this wikipedia article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_DS. So from a hardware point of view the 3DS has backwards compatibilty for about 8 years worth of games. Which are all the same DS standard with some improvements for new systems along the line. So is this really backwards compatible? Isn't this just expanding the range of games that can be made. There is no real new standard invented, only new options added. These options can only be accessed in new systems. But apart from that no new inprovments are made. And whe have seen about 8(?, please correct me if I am wrong, I have no information on this matter) different DS systems since the first one. All with a new look and one or two extra features. Please consider this last point to, because here is the big 'problem'.

Seen again from the hardware point of view, the PS vita an entirely new game standard for the Portable Playstation devices.
The original PSP has been released in (again) 2004 as can be seen here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Portable

And since then has used the UMD standard for games with every 'improved' version of the system.

Now with the ps vita, they switched to little cards. But they left out the UMD station so no compatability with those games.

This, I am afraid, is a pointless thing to discuss. You see, there are good reasons for both systems to make the decision for backwards compatibilty yes or no. The 3DS is most likely to have backwards compatibility for DS games because there are no real changes to the platform and system which would make this impossible. If we look back however to the last 'real' system change from GBA games to DS games.. Well We donnot see this compatibilty anymore not only because of age but also for not having to sacrifice space within the console.

The PS vita, most likely has the same reason for not beeing able to play UMD's. Because there was a real change to the system and hardware.

So if whe compare this... The systems are equal for the most part of it.


If you disagree with above point, please let me know why.




On a online shop point of view... Well what's there to argue about again?

Both systems have backwardscompatibilty for consoles way back and both do not have by any stretch of the imagination have all titels of those old consoles.


So guys, keep on argueing but leave compatibilty to a rest.

Both manufactures act more or less the same in similair situations. Only, because they donnot at the same time, you donnot fully consider this point.

Hope this clears things up a bit. And I'm sorry, I donnot have the best English ever
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