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Trump somehow won reelection....
Convicted Felon Reelected as President of the USA
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Somehow? People were fed up with Biden ruining the energy sector, raising the price of fuel, therefore increasing the cost of getting groceries and running businesses, war-mongering with other countries, and letting people die on the battlefield, fumbling his words in speeches, crapping his pants on camera, letting the border be open, therefore giving social programs to illegals across the country, inflation never went in the negatives, out of control spending to Ukraine and not enough for Hawaii.
Who he had to run against was not logically fluent when asked questions on how she would mitigate inflation. She said she would've spent more money, which means more taxes and inflation. There was an ad about how she funded sex changes for prisoners in California.
Project 2025 was a lie and propaganda. Even in debates, Trump said he never heard of it and didn't want anything to do with it. Agenda 2030 was real. Corporate media had a vast majority of one-sided stories made for newscasters and not real people. You can't convict a sitting President of the United States. Like, why not have the ability to pardon yourself? There were legal loopholes used when they took Trump's personal information and basically invaded his privacy just so he would pay a fine.
And about J6. It was not a massacre. Only one person died and it was a white woman you never heard of on the news. They acted on their own free will. Trump said they were allowed to protest peacefully.
We need people to run this country like a business, not a carnival. Amen
Who he had to run against was not logically fluent when asked questions on how she would mitigate inflation. She said she would've spent more money, which means more taxes and inflation. There was an ad about how she funded sex changes for prisoners in California.
Project 2025 was a lie and propaganda. Even in debates, Trump said he never heard of it and didn't want anything to do with it. Agenda 2030 was real. Corporate media had a vast majority of one-sided stories made for newscasters and not real people. You can't convict a sitting President of the United States. Like, why not have the ability to pardon yourself? There were legal loopholes used when they took Trump's personal information and basically invaded his privacy just so he would pay a fine.
And about J6. It was not a massacre. Only one person died and it was a white woman you never heard of on the news. They acted on their own free will. Trump said they were allowed to protest peacefully.
We need people to run this country like a business, not a carnival. Amen
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I won't lie, Biden wasn't good and glad he stepped from the race, but I'm seeing a lot of old Biden issues in Trump, and its most likely we just voted for his vp, not him.
The republican party is toxic though, they will put down helpful program and give rise to toxic culture, this is my issue.
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I do agree. Seeing folks show up in the store all grumpy and unclean can get me upset. Mostly people that want their deposits. However, the truth is that the government can't take care of you from cradle to grave. If it costs money it has to come from somewhere. Social security is good, and making bipartisan policy is good. But last time Trump was in office they pushed a lot of stuff I don't think he would personally be for but had to for some kind of progress.
When we all were required to have health insurance, most people had to pay a bunch and the insurance hardly covered it. It all depends on your employer.
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Democrats lost in nearly all battleground states. Trump will walk into office with a Republican senate and a Republican house of representatives.
This was a worse defeat for Harris than Clinton. Harris didn't even win the popular vote.
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Vote swings from last night, the bigger the color the bigger the swing.
I honestly don't even think people wanted Kamala as their nominee. Some were probably upset that Biden couldnt get a 2nd shot to potentially beat Trump again, and they never had a formal vote for the democratic nominee to begin with. They just picked her. It's the Bernie Sanders effect all over again in 2016. Everyone and their mother loved him because he said all the things people wanted to hear, but the DNC wanted a Clinton to go against Trump. They're so busy talking about this and that interfering with Trump winning, how is it not one person brings up how the DNC is crooked as all hell.
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Love knows no boundaries.
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True, she did well for the short amount of time but she needed more time.
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Update: Utah is the only state to see a blue shift in this election.
American self sabotage would be funnier if it didn't give oxygen to the worst scum both at home and worldwide.
Not one MAGA yokel is able to even begin to explain how wholesale tariffs will reduce their prices. Of course economics is not their strong suit. They want a good economy, but their economy is probably the best in the world right now showing growth rates of 5% which is literally developing country levels and then compare it with the UK or germany. Biden got no credit because when pressed on why they think it's bad they blame prices being high. Well that's inflation which is called goalpost moving but fine even inflation is low now and the causes can directly be traced back to the wars and covid, biden did what could be reasonably expected to stem it. But then the goalpost moves again to inflation is just the rate of growth and prices are high already now. Trump has never come up with a answer rooted in reality of how he's going to reduce prices just platitudes. Is he going to make inflation negative? I mean that's both really bad and not in his hands because the central banks don't answer to elected officials.
What is going to happen is the rapid decline of american influence worldwide because Trumps views trade deficits as 'the US being robbed' of money even though that's how they got cheap goods in the first place. And the countries on the other end of the deficit will be far less accepting of american hegemony if there's no financial incentive for them. Same thing with foreign aid, and commitments which he views as 'sending money abroad'. In his transactional mind and the simple minds of his supporters he wants people to give something tangible back else it's theft which hilariously is how he views NATO.
Who's going to tell the MAGAs that no amount of tariffs will make the US out compete China or Bangladesh for cheap manufactured goods and that ship has sailed a long time back. Tariffs will only help the companies that would otherwise get outcompeted to stay in business which is fine but you can't cry about high prices at the same time. You will eventually find out you are not richer, healthier, safer or anything with what he's going to do and I know that he won't be subject to the same kind of scrutiny or goalpost moving because if they didn't have double standards they'd have no standards at all.
Not one MAGA yokel is able to even begin to explain how wholesale tariffs will reduce their prices. Of course economics is not their strong suit. They want a good economy, but their economy is probably the best in the world right now showing growth rates of 5% which is literally developing country levels and then compare it with the UK or germany. Biden got no credit because when pressed on why they think it's bad they blame prices being high. Well that's inflation which is called goalpost moving but fine even inflation is low now and the causes can directly be traced back to the wars and covid, biden did what could be reasonably expected to stem it. But then the goalpost moves again to inflation is just the rate of growth and prices are high already now. Trump has never come up with a answer rooted in reality of how he's going to reduce prices just platitudes. Is he going to make inflation negative? I mean that's both really bad and not in his hands because the central banks don't answer to elected officials.
What is going to happen is the rapid decline of american influence worldwide because Trumps views trade deficits as 'the US being robbed' of money even though that's how they got cheap goods in the first place. And the countries on the other end of the deficit will be far less accepting of american hegemony if there's no financial incentive for them. Same thing with foreign aid, and commitments which he views as 'sending money abroad'. In his transactional mind and the simple minds of his supporters he wants people to give something tangible back else it's theft which hilariously is how he views NATO.
Who's going to tell the MAGAs that no amount of tariffs will make the US out compete China or Bangladesh for cheap manufactured goods and that ship has sailed a long time back. Tariffs will only help the companies that would otherwise get outcompeted to stay in business which is fine but you can't cry about high prices at the same time. You will eventually find out you are not richer, healthier, safer or anything with what he's going to do and I know that he won't be subject to the same kind of scrutiny or goalpost moving because if they didn't have double standards they'd have no standards at all.
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It’ll be funny at first for me to see all the tard rage from Trump haters on forums and social media, but it’s going to get annoying soon.
I wish some folks were trolling, but I know these people and I do get curious where they get their information from. I didn’t know all minorities are going to get deported and we’re going to have gay concentration camps.
I wish some folks were trolling, but I know these people and I do get curious where they get their information from. I didn’t know all minorities are going to get deported and we’re going to have gay concentration camps.
that's honestly already started, but you can also blame the MSM for stirring that pot even more than it needed to be. For whatever reason, the left LOVE to install fear in people. Anyone with half a brain knows that you can't deport people who are here legally.
My annoyance with the left is that they’re supposed to be anti-racist and all the identity politics stuff, but they’re the most judgmental towards people over those things.
My race got brought up more from them than those dirty Trump supporters who apparently all have Klan hoods.
Tariffs is an interesting issue. On the surface, Trump has a great idea here even if he articulates it like an idiot five year old. If people (the American people) have to pay more they will shop elsewhere so manufacturing has to come to the US to avoid the tariffs.
But underneath the people (the American people) are going to feel the force of this, and not the - for example - Chinese. China won't be charged a tariff on what they export. American companies will be charged a tariff on what they import. They will pass this increase onto consumers. This will be incredibly inflationary.
Dangerous move by Agent Orange, but if it pays off it will be a masterstroke.
But underneath the people (the American people) are going to feel the force of this, and not the - for example - Chinese. China won't be charged a tariff on what they export. American companies will be charged a tariff on what they import. They will pass this increase onto consumers. This will be incredibly inflationary.
Dangerous move by Agent Orange, but if it pays off it will be a masterstroke.
Read from CNN:
Pentagon officials are holding informal discussions about how the Department of Defense would respond if Donald Trump issues orders to deploy active-duty troops.
Trump has suggested he would be open to using active-duty forces for domestic law enforcement and mass deportations and has indicated he wants to stack the federal government with loyalists and “clean out corrupt actors” in the US national security establishment.
“We are all preparing and planning for the worst-case scenario, but the reality is that we don’t know how this is going to play out yet,” one defense official said.
Trump’s election has also raised questions inside the Pentagon about what would happen if the president issued an unlawful order, particularly if his political appointees inside the department don’t push back.
“Troops are compelled by law to disobey unlawful orders,” said another defense official. “But the question is what happens then – do we see resignations from senior military leaders? Or would they view that as abandoning their people?”
It’s unclear at this point who Trump will choose to lead the Pentagon, though officials believe Trump and his team will try to avoid the kind of “hostile” relationship he had with the military during his last administration, said a former defense official who served under Trump.
“The relationship between the White House and the DoD was really, really bad, and so … I know it’s top of mind for how they’re going to select the folks that they put in DoD this time around,” the former official said.
Pentagon officials are holding informal discussions about how the Department of Defense would respond if Donald Trump issues orders to deploy active-duty troops.
Trump has suggested he would be open to using active-duty forces for domestic law enforcement and mass deportations and has indicated he wants to stack the federal government with loyalists and “clean out corrupt actors” in the US national security establishment.
“We are all preparing and planning for the worst-case scenario, but the reality is that we don’t know how this is going to play out yet,” one defense official said.
Trump’s election has also raised questions inside the Pentagon about what would happen if the president issued an unlawful order, particularly if his political appointees inside the department don’t push back.
“Troops are compelled by law to disobey unlawful orders,” said another defense official. “But the question is what happens then – do we see resignations from senior military leaders? Or would they view that as abandoning their people?”
It’s unclear at this point who Trump will choose to lead the Pentagon, though officials believe Trump and his team will try to avoid the kind of “hostile” relationship he had with the military during his last administration, said a former defense official who served under Trump.
“The relationship between the White House and the DoD was really, really bad, and so … I know it’s top of mind for how they’re going to select the folks that they put in DoD this time around,” the former official said.
Well you can't run a country purely like business because a country is not just a company wanting to make profit. It's not as simple as that, and Trump is not a capable enough business man too. While Biden and Harris are bad with their economic policies, Trump's gamble on tariffs could be really dangerous in the long run too. Also Trump could be getting buddy buddy again with dictator Putin, dangerous. Trump's admiration for dictators is dangerous, the guy is a fascist pretty much. Even Trump’s own longest-serving chief of staff John Kelly said “the general definition of a fascist”, the same political category as Hitler and Mussolini. Not really a fan of Harris myself but in this case she is still the lesser evil in the long run as a whole between the 2 imo.
Article from PWM:
Illusion of economic resurgence
Mr Trump’s tariffs might seem, on the surface, like a move toward self-reliance, a revival of US strength. But this illusion obscures more complicated reality.American manufacturers today operate in a global ecosystem where raw materials, components, and finished goods travel across borders in vast supply chains. Tariffs artificially inflate costs of these goods, burdening not foreign producers, but US businesses and, ultimately, American consumers. The very industries that Trump hopes to bolster, like automotive and tech, would find it increasingly hard to compete if their input costs rise, as they would under a protectionist tariff policy.
The irony is glaring. Rather than encouraging a surge in domestic production, tariffs force US companies to make hard decisions: pass these costs onto consumers or absorb them. Higher prices for everything from cars to smartphones are not the path to American greatness; they’re a surefire way to erode purchasing power of the average American, creating financial strain on households and choking off consumer spending.
Rather than reinvigorating US manufacturing, tariffs will likely lead to job cuts and factory closures as businesses, particularly those with tight margins, struggle to stay afloat.
Ignoring lessons of history
This is not the first time America has turned to tariffs as a supposed fix for economic concerns. The Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1930 remains a historical example of tariff policy backfiring. Intended to protect US farmers from global competition during the Great Depression, Smoot-Hawley triggered retaliatory tariffs worldwide, crippling trade and worsening the economic downturn. Eighty years later, we’re witnessing similar rhetoric under Mr Trump’s trade policy. But today’s stakes are, arguably, higher.The modern global economy is an intricate network that did not exist in the 1930s. Global supply chains, digital economies, and multinational corporations mean countries and industries are more interdependent than ever. Imposing tariffs disrupts this finely tuned system, creating ripple effects that reverberate far beyond US borders. Fallout from Mr Trump’s policies would hit not just American households, but also developing economies reliant on exports, weakening emerging markets and stunting their growth prospects.
Retaliation
Perhaps the most alarming consequence of Mr Trump’s tariff policy is the looming spectre of a trade war. This isn’t mere conjecture; it’s an almost certain reality.If the US imposes tariffs on imports from Europe, China and other major trading partners, these countries will respond in kind. Europe, in particular, is unlikely to stand idle while American policies threaten its industries. A swift retaliation could see tariffs imposed on US exports, directly impacting sectors ranging from agriculture to luxury goods.
This tit-for-tat escalation risks plunging the global economy into chaos. The concept of a ‘winner’ in a trade war is illusory; every economy loses when prices rise, trade slows, and uncertainty takes root. A trade war isn’t just about economic principles; it’s about real jobs, real businesses and real livelihoods.
Rebuilding walls
Mr Trump’s tariff proposal represents a monumental step backward. In a world where collaboration and open trade have been proven to drive growth and innovation, his policy would rebuild economic walls which the world has spent decades tearing down.Tariffs won’t Make America Great Again; they will only insulate the US from the progress and prosperity that comes from engaging with a global economy.
As Mr Trump’s White House ambitions grow, so does urgency for investors, policymakers, and citizens to scrutinise his economic vision. It’s not just America’s economy on the line, it’s the global economic order that’s at risk.
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Article on Trump's Psych:
Dr Brian Hughes, the associate director of the Polarization and Extremism Research and Innovation Lab at American University, said Trump has for years been accused of mimicking the rise to power of Hitler and Mussolini, for good reason.
“I think it’s important to remember that fascism isn’t a binary. Fascism is a process,” said Hughes in an interview with the Guardian. “Since the very beginning of the Trump campaign in 2015, there’s been a lot of denialism and a lot of whistling past the graveyard, but the symptoms keep adding up.”
At the inception of his administration, Hughes pointed out, Trump instituted the Muslim ban and described Latino immigration as a sort of infestation, all classic fascistic attacks on “an enemy within, a group that can be targeted and scapegoated for all the problems of society”.
Then came the strongman tactics of trying to overturn the 2020 presidential election – a cause still pursued by many Trump acolytes who see him as a “fascist imaginary”, as Hughes puts it.
“Now we finally have stated policy goals of targeting political enemies, not just through lawfare, but also through violence and myriad other examples of plans to govern in a way that mirrors 20-century fascism,” he said.
Both Hitler and Mussolini similarly practiced the classic performance of screaming and hand-gesturing at rallies, threatening their enemies during their rise to power. Trump’s off-the-cuff speech style, now and in previous campaigns, has become synonymous with that kind of machismo and callback to the 30s.
Even while in power, Trump set the stage for his comeback and the basis for what Stanley sees as a surefire fascist state to come.
“The courts will be replaced by loyalists, as we have already seen with the supreme court of the United States,” he said, referring to three ultra-conservative justices Trump already installed while in power. In Nazi Germany, government officials at all levels, legal and bureaucratic, had to declare strict allegiances to the party.
Since those Trump appointments, the nation’s highest court delivered landmark rulings overturning abortion rights and bestowing kingly powers to the presidency, almost akin to the Third Reich or the Spanish dictator Francisco Franco, who ruled over his country until 1975.
Critics say LGBTQ+ rights are next on his hit list of issues for the courts, if Trump returns to power. Notably, the fascist governments of Hitler and Mussolini outlawed queer, Roma and Jewish people, disappearing those they deemed political undesirables in a series of mass killings or jailings that led up to their so-called “final solution” and the Holocaust.
But the first stage of Trump’s potential fascist-like state, as Stanley told the Guardian, will involve solidifying the authority of a single party, not unlike how Viktor Orbán of Hungary (often called a “neo-fascist”) has eviscerated any semblance of an opposition in the former eastern bloc country.
If Trump wins, Stanley said, “America will be a one-party state from now on” forecasting that “JD Vance or perhaps Donald Trump Jr” will then replace Trump in the cult of personality as he ages or dies.
“There will be no more meaningful federal elections,” he added.
Heidi Beirich, the co-founder of the Global Project Against Hate and Extremism (GPAHE), has for decades been a mainstay critic, analyst and academic authority on the American far right and said she fears the current political climate is veering towards fascism.
Beirich called attention to how nationalist flirtations and pro-nativist periods in the 19th and 20th centuries have already given birth to organizations like the Ku Klux Klan, and to eugenics and the terroristic suppression of Black people all over the country in multiple eras, until the civil rights movement established legal equalities.
“There was also a movement in support of the Nazi government, with groups like the American Bund prior to world war two,” said Beirich, referring to a pro-Hitler and German-American political organization founded in 1936, which openly promoted Nazism.
In 1939, mere months before the invasion of Poland, the Bund held a rally at Madison Square Garden in New York City. Many critics compared that rally with Trump’s own election rally in the famous arena last weekend. During the “love fest”, as the Republican candidate labeled it, speakers made several racist statements, including a joke about the entire island of Puerto Rico being “garbage”.
“So my takeaway is that anti-immigrant sentiment and race science, which is embraced by our growing white supremacist movements, have an American pedigree,” said Beirich. “It is a worry that we could enter a new phase that revives this vile history.”
Beirich has exposed the inner workings of several American neo-Nazi groups for years and says those types of groups see the current political climate as an opportunity.
“The far right is certainly in a more powerful position today than it has been in decades,” she said, describing extremists who are desperately afraid of the racist great replacement theory, once promoted by Tucker Carlson on Fox News before his firing.
Beirich said that “whatever happens on election day, these growing, empowered far-right movements aren’t going away”.
“They will form a cohesive political force for years to come, particularly as demographic change inevitably transforms this country from having a white majority to no ethnic majority,” she continued.
Many of the neo-Nazi terrorist groups recently born in America that Beirich has tracked were also admirers of the past. Members of the Atomwaffen Division were known to worship the Third Reich and Mussolini, making a point of collecting artifacts from that era.
Francesco Marone, an assistant professor at the University of Teramo and a researcher at the Italian Institute for International Political Studies, whose own country gave birth to fascism, is less concerned or convinced that Trump is a fascist as much as that his aggressive actions threaten broader western political cohesion.
“On the other hand, experts can identify partial similarities between Trump and Mussolini and fascist tendencies, such as a charismatic personality, capable of promoting a cult of personality, the emphasis placed on a presumed profound decadence and humiliation of the country, racist and male chauvinist attitudes, authoritarian tendencies (but in different degrees), ultranationalism, a propensity to demonize the political opponent,” he said in an emailed message.
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If Tifa was one of the candidates though would definitely vote for Tifa, even if she was a PLOT dictator lol and Putin would definitely fall under her PLOT lol :
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