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Demon_Skeith said:
If the pc has 4GB of RAM, it's dead in the water lol.
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A lot of 4GB PCs also come with Intel Celeron CPUs which is not a fast CPU to run Windows at a fast speed when using more intensive programs like video and photo editors. I think PC with 4GB RAM and an Intel Celeron may run faster if it uses a cheap 32GB SSD found in cheaper Windows laptops like the HP Stream.

The cooling system on cheap PCs may not be good enough to cool the PC. I think a lot of computers slow down when it is too hot to protect the CPU, RAM, and video chip from overheating.
 
froggyboy604 said:
A lot of 4GB PCs also come with Intel Celeron CPUs which is not a fast CPU to run Windows at a fast speed when using more intensive programs like video and photo editors. I think PC with 4GB RAM and an Intel Celeron may run faster if it uses a cheap 32GB SSD found in cheaper Windows laptops like the HP Stream.

The cooling system on cheap PCs may not be good enough to cool the PC. I think a lot of computers slow down when it is too hot to protect the CPU, RAM, and video chip from overheating.
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LOL! Please, celeron with 4 gb of ram would crash if someone opened both outlook and a word doc at the same time.
 
Demon_Skeith said:
LOL! Please, celeron with 4 gb of ram would crash if someone opened both outlook and a word doc at the same time.
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I think Intel Celeron Desktop CPUs for desktop PC towers run MS Office at a faster speed, but the mobile Celerons made for cheap Windows laptops and tablets are more slow, and can cause slow performance problems when doing basic tasks like Outlook and Word.
 
froggyboy604 said:
I think Intel Celeron Desktop CPUs for desktop PC towers run MS Office at a faster speed, but the mobile Celerons made for cheap Windows laptops and tablets are more slow, and can cause slow performance problems when doing basic tasks like Outlook and Word.
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The mobile ones work surprisingly fine when doing basic tasks. I got one of those $100 laptops at Best Buy as a throwaway laptop for my last trip, and it worked fine after I disabled S mode. Sure it’s not as good as my desktop, but it was snappy enough for basic tasks.
 
Demon_Skeith said:
Sure it isn't a pc issue? I use the latest version on many PCs without issue.
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Grungie said:
Maybe your computer is too old, or you're using a slow hard drive. It sucks for people on a budget, but low end computers aren't really meant to last that long. Some of those can barely handle running anything other than the operating system and a web browser, but not much else, so they end up not handling updates too well because of how low tier the hardware is to keep the price down.
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Thank you both for your replies! It may be our PC. But when we got this new computer, I had problems right off the bat with the new Microsoft Word. Ours is a Dell.
How would you fix a slow hard drive?
 
Grungie said:
I mean, that’s every computer ever
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No one should see any major decline in a high end pc for a few years at least, barring any defects and or viruses.

Low end PCs like this one? Will be grinding gears to do a basic task within a year. I've sold them enough to know this is fact.

ZandraJoi said:
Thank you both for your replies! It may be our PC. But when we got this new computer, I had problems right off the bat with the new Microsoft Word. Ours is a Dell.
How would you fix a slow hard drive?
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Do you have a old style disc hard drive or a new type SSD? If the old disc drive, you can try deleting files off of it and do a disc defrag to help it out a bit.
 
Demon_Skeith said:
No one should see any major decline in a high end pc for a few years at least, barring any defects and or viruses.

Low end PCs like this one? Will be grinding gears to do a basic task within a year. I've sold them enough to know this is fact.
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Well technically it still slows down regardless, you won't notice, but it still slows down.

I own several of these computers and actually use them, they work fine for basic tasks for awhile. I know this as a fact.
 
Grungie said:
Well technically it still slows down regardless, you won't notice, but it still slows down.

I own several of these computers and actually use them, they work fine for basic tasks for awhile. I know this as a fact.
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Got to remember the average person won't know how to properly keep machines going like we would and keep doing more than basic tasks which makes the machine overworked.
 
Demon_Skeith said:
No one should see any major decline in a high end pc for a few years at least, barring any defects and or viruses.

Low end PCs like this one? Will be grinding gears to do a basic task within a year. I've sold them enough to know this is fact.



Do you have a old style disc hard drive or a new type SSD? If the old disc drive, you can try deleting files off of it and do a disc defrag to help it out a bit.
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Thank you! I'll get back to you on this question! Another option I saw from others is to uninstall & reinstall Word as some had it be corrupted from the get-go. I hesitate with that because I don't want to lose all my writings if something happens!
 
ZandraJoi said:
Thank you! I'll get back to you on this question! Another option I saw from others is to uninstall & reinstall Word as some had it be corrupted from the get-go. I hesitate with that because I don't want to lose all my writings if something happens!
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Uninstalling Word (or any other software) won’t delete your documents. It just removes the software off the computer.
 
Demon_Skeith said:
And that would be fine, but others will install junkware, spotify, misc programs that will weigh down the pc.
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You can do that with any computer. It's not the fault of the processor if people can make their computer run at a snail's pace with junkware. I can just as easily do that to your computer, so should you go and throw it out because I can bring it to its knees? All I have to do is install Tanium on it, and boom, I can easily have it take up 90% of your CPU resources.
 
Grungie said:
You can do that with any computer. It's not the fault of the processor if people can make their computer run at a snail's pace with junkware. I can just as easily do that to your computer, so should you go and throw it out because I can bring it to its knees? All I have to do is install Tanium on it, and boom, I can easily have it take up 90% of your CPU resources.
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I think you're missing the point, being that people buy low end stuff expecting higher end stuff of performance from it and last as long as higher end pcs would.
 
Demon_Skeith said:
I think you're missing the point, being that people buy low end stuff expecting higher end stuff of performance from it and last as long as higher end pcs would.
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Your initial complaint was that these computers can’t run two instances of Microsoft Office and become useless in a year. You then kept shifting the blame and shifting the goalpost when I kept countering your claim.

So I’m sure you’re missing the point. It’s not the computer’s fault that it can’t do what it isn’t intended to do, it’s entirely the fault of the person who bought it. Is it the fault of a monitor that I bought a 60hz monitor expecting the performance of a 120hz?
 
Grungie said:
Your initial complaint was that these computers can’t run two instances of Microsoft Office and become useless in a year. You then kept shifting the blame and shifting the goalpost when I kept countering your claim.

So I’m sure you’re missing the point. It’s not the computer’s fault that it can’t do what it isn’t intended to do, it’s entirely the fault of the person who bought it. Is it the fault of a monitor that I bought a 60hz monitor expecting the performance of a 120hz?
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You take my posts too literally honestly. A celeron cpu pc with 4GB of ram is worthless these days is my point. Windows 11 wouldn't even run on such a machine.

A low end machine will show its age well before a higher end machine will.
 
Demon_Skeith said:
You take my posts too literally honestly. A celeron cpu pc with 4GB of ram is worthless these days is my point. Windows 11 wouldn't even run on such a machine.

A low end machine will show its age well before a higher end machine will.
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Windows 11 runs stock on the machine. Are those stores lying about it being on there?

If all you need to do is browse the internet, and run Office (or hell, Google Dosc) you find a computer that does that, who cares if it “doesn’t age as well”.

The irony is that most of the people with high end PC’s replace their stuff much more frequently than people using low end stuff. It’s funny being on PC gaming communities and seeing them whine about laptops not being as upgradable, yet a lot of them redo their entire rigs much more frequently than a laptop user.
 
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