A Fight about Tibet

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Yep... why I even agree with you... I don't know everything about European/American history, though I know some...but as a Westerner
reading this and replying to it there, I'd like for you to
not say any s**** about China/Tibet or pull out the "freedom/human rights/country" before knowing the real history behind it or how the Tibetans are living in China or without what your own country's done to China. Because I just strongly
disagree with that and to be honest here, I think it's doing more harm than good
to my country and because frankly, you
Westerners just want an easy way in China and just want to steal others' lands
and things like always. And I can name
many occasions in which the Westerners/Americans did use such tactics to invade
others, and because that's their real plands behind that.

And the Chinese lost such dignity during
Western invasion during the White invasion and I'm saying this is to happen
to my home and to Tibetans

So... I'm close-minded for defending my own home...? Lol.

But White Westerners often judge others.
 
You are a westerner yourself, you are a Canadian for crying out loud.. and I have news for you, I dont talk shit. I watch the news, albeit not American news unless it is local, and most of my global news comes from unbiased non-American sources, since I would get the whole story.. rather than the corporate friendly versions.. now just because your people look down on independence, human decency, education, and just about anything that encourages free thought doesnt mean that you know the whole story yourself.

You talk about Tibetans as if they are loving the Chinese rule even though they are setting themselves on fire in protest. By the way, you STILL haven't explained why you consider it to be a good thing seeing as how you seem to be an expert. You have still failed to answer that question TWICE even though you have wasted no time in calling me Pro-American.

You have some fucking nerve to talk about judgment when your ignorant, racist ass has been passing the most judgment all along. Judgement against Whites and against anything that isn't with your pinhole existence. You sit up and talk your shit about people and lifestyles that you don't know a fucking thing about and yet you have the nerve to sit up and say that Westerners are judgemental?

You are obviously a product of propaganda and generations of bullshit passed down in your family and the saddest thing of all is that in an age where people are free to educate themselves, you still choose mental slavery.

Something tells me that if we were back in 1865 and you were now a freed slave, you'd go running back to the plantation and beg your former master to take you back because you are overwhelmed by your new freedom.

You say we are Westerners and Pro-American because we don't agree with you and yet you are so Pro-Asian that you can't even see that we are not what you accuse of us of. You are too close minded to even understand where we are coming from even though we already know where you are coming from.
 
Oh, I'm only saying the truth (or one side of it from the
Chinese's perspective) about Whites and Westerners.
I'll never be one of them.

I'm ignorant/narrow-minded, when I'm basing what I'm thinking about them on what
most Westerners think and say about my country...?

And I'm ignorant because I don't share your views...?
and again, you jumped into conclusions too much about... (Gamer said I was pro-Asian,lol I never accused you were saying of saying that about me...sorry I should have specified to whom I was talking to in my posts...)

(You (to Black Angel only here) should read a poll about Tibet/China and most answers will be the same: free Tibet and China's ruling over them/genociding/persecuting them and that's truth cause I've tried it).

And that's how Westerners see it. I don't know what is it
with you and them...And you may like what they're doing
to Africa and you forgive what they did to Blacks,
but as I've said so many times myself, I can't...)
 
You seem to forget that we are in 2013. Most of the shit you go on about where the U.S. is concerned isn't happening anymore. People are a lot more civilized now than they were back in the BC days.

This is mostly because of education and the abundance of technology. It is also evident in the fact that we are no longer cannibals or fucking members of our family.

That being said, people should be free for that reason. If the Chinese are as decent as you say they are then they shouldn't have an issue with giving Tibetans whatever it is that they want that will stop them from sacrificing themselves. The fact that China hasn't yet means that the Chinese aren't as decent as you make them out to be.

I am sure that if the shoe were on the other foot and it were Canada, the U.S. and the U.K. that were an international triumvirate over China and the Chinese people were setting themselves on fire in the name of freedom from Canadian, American and British rule, that you would also these nations to comply with their requests.

Regardless of what the history is.

Not all history is good and it is the ability to move on from it that ensures a better future and not dwelling on the past.

Also, how would YOU know what or how a Westerner thinks when as you yourself has said that you are not and would never be one of them? HOW would YOU even know what they think? Have you spoken to every Westerner to come up with an accurate consensus? Have you polled all inhabitants of all countries west of China to come up with your answer?

How can you be so presumptuous?
 
GamerPerfection said:
Even if Black Angel was African you think it's wrong for her to defend America? Why would you find it hard to understand that an African would defend America?
 
You are so fucking racist it is UNBELIEVABLE.
 
I bet you if I a WHITE MAN defended China in all of your stupid arguements that you would not have turned around and said you don't understand how I a WHITE MAN is defending China.
 
You are so fucking unbelivable that I am not surprised you argue with every person on the damn internet. You know nothing about Western life, your English is pathetic, and you claim everyone that disagrees with you is biased and sticking up for each other that disagrees with you.
 
N.B. I may sound angry but I am not, it is just that nothing goes through your thick head.
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Oh yes I'd say that even... sounds fair to you...?

And English is French, got that...?

And China's giving them whatever they want? A home, good foods on their table... (Because they're encouraged by Whites... that's why and most of the protests/sacrificing similar to this, in other non-White countries is encouraged by Whites... Egypt, Syria...Afghanistan Arab-Jews, Palestine-Isreal and etc... why even India-Pakistan)


Whites love to do this to others for profit... (I'm judgemental against Whites, and heavily so yes... but can't stand the truth...?)

But that's what most Westerners
have shown to me... and what I'm perceving as the truth as I'm more much realistic.
 
Sanaki said:
And English is French, got that...?
 
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No it's not. I'm English and I can't speak French. Does that mean I'm not English?

It is ridiculous how you think that because you learned French that you think you have flawless English yet you fail to understand every single argument put to you.
 
Well, I learned something new.

English is French, and here I was thinking that England and France were two separate countries..

Honestly, you say that this is what most Westerners have shown to you, but you don't say how.

How have most westerners shown you this? Did you take a poll among all the people who live in countries west of China? Did you talk to every single American? What is the basis for your conclusions?

And if China was giving Tibetans whatever they wanted then they wouldn't be setting themselves on fire and PROTESTING AGAINST Chinese rule.

With your logic, you'd probably say that a woman who hadn't had sex in a year should be thankful that she got raped because before that happened, she hadn't had sex in a year.
 
And yet again, you are so pro-American sounding by
what you said there...?

And yes in fact, I did get this on Youtube and other blogs
about this (Most of them answering this way are either American, and British or even French...)

You don't know how many "Free Tibet" comments there are
on Youtube and other sites...? And why people liking
these comments are either Brits/Americans/Canadians/French (they've said so themselves...eh?)
 
GamerPerfection said:
What are you asking in this question? Are you asking if Black Angel is pro-American?
 
What is your problem if someone is Pro-American???
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I'd disagree with everything they say, even this matter
at hand...
I already know she isn't, since she answered me herself.

And yes Black Angel, their Chieftains
surrendered themselves to the Chinese (willingly) in the Yuan dynasty to fight
off the Mongols with us (you're always
omitting to consider this)
and yes they've allied themselves with
our Emperor to protect against Mongols
and Western invasion and even admired our culture (watch some documentaries about this... and you'll see
that the genocides/killing of them never even happened...and that's Western propaganda against China because most Westerners Europeans hate us and hate China
seeing China strong against them again
and want to exploit China's resources and people.

Can't you see how they've even slandered
African history and done this to Africa too (How can you not hate them in return for it?) like they did with China
and are still doing it to Arabs-Jews
and etc.

And the sacrificing (only for show and
started by Westerners like in Libya, Syria, Jordan...and meant to disturb societal peace or a country's peace)
 
So basically no matter what a pro-American says you will disagree with it. You are even more unbelievably closed-minded than I gave you credit for before.

In fact what is the bloody point in coming on to a Western based forum to debate something where you are going to disagree with everything a pro-American says? You are so stupid.
 
GamerPerfection said:
So basically no matter what a pro-American says you will disagree with it. You are even more unbelievably closed-minded than I gave you credit for before.
 
In fact what is the bloody point in coming on to a Western based forum to debate something where you are going to disagree with everything a pro-American says? You are so stupid.
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And... who are you to say I can't...?
 
Sanaki said:
And yes Black Angel, their Chieftainssurrendered themselves to the Chinese (willingly) in the Yuan dynasty to fightoff the Mongols with us (you're alwaysomitting to consider this)and yes they've allied themselves withour Emperor to protect against Mongolsand Western invasion and even admired our culture (watch some documentaries about this... and you'll seethat the genocides/killing of the never even happened...and that's Western propaganda against Chine because most Westerners Europeans hate us).
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A woman being held at knife or gunpoint will surrender her belongings and body to an attacker if she thinks it will save her life, does that mean that she consented to being robbed or raped?

When people fear that their lives are in danger, they will tell you anything, if they think that it will save their lives. It doesn't mean that it was voluntary or that they meant it.
 
Black Angel said:
A woman being held at knife or gunpoint will surrender her belongings and body to an attacker if she thinks it will save her life, does that mean that she consented to being robbed or raped?

When people fear that their lives are in danger, they will tell you anything, if they think that it will save their lives. It doesn't mean that it was voluntary or that they meant it.
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No one was killed by the Chinese, in
fact Chinese and tibetan were being killeed by Mongols and Westerners, didn't you read that bit?

they had to choose either from being enslaved
by Westerners/Mongols or fighting them off with us, Chinese. Or to become Whites or Asians. What would you choose if
that were you?
 
Sanaki said:
No one is being killed in tibet nor raped there, that's again Western propaganda... because they hate us Chinese.

And they can even live richer than the Chinese...
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So no-one in Tibet has been murdered or raped? Seriously?
 
Sanaki said:
No one is being killed in tibet nor raped there, that's again Western propaganda... because they hate us Chinese.And they can even live richer than the Chinese...
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That's not what I asked and you know it.

Let's try this again.

A woman who is being held at knife or gunpoint by an attacker will surrender her possessions and her body to her attacker if she fears that her life is in danger, and thinks that doing so will save her life, does this mean that she consented to being robbed and raped?

If she is weaker than her attacker and is unable to fight him off as he rapes her, does that mean she consented to it even if she has an orgasm from the attack?

And if you really believe that no one was murdered or raped, then I have a bridge to sell you.
 
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